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youhavenoidea.. Do you know where the insiders make their deals?
How would you know all of this INSIDE information?
-shorts
youhavenoidea.. Is this company doing something illegal?
Does that happen in penny stocks?
I had no idea?
-shorts
EDGAR WARD,
WHAT'S THIS?
Also if you would please fax me a short note stating that I’m currently handling business for you on other accounts (Carefree Elite) and at your request you would like me to solely handle X Y Z. Please fax to # below.
P.S Here is my cell # (561) 212-3816
Regards,
Edgar J. Ward III
Registered Representative
Empire Financial Group, Inc.
866.253.EFGI (3344)
561.544.0200
Fax 561.544.0222
eward@empirenow.com
EDGAR WARD X-FIRED BROKER FROM EMPIRE FINANCIAL
QUESTION FOR YOU
DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SERIES 7?
IF YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO JAIL, YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT?
Edgar J. Ward III
Registered Representative
Empire Financial Group, Inc.
866.253.EFGI (3344)
561.544.0200
Fax 561.544.0222
eward@empirenow.com
EDWARD..YOU BREAK 40C AND YOU'RE HEADED TO 0005
NO LAMBO THIS WEEKEND..COME ON, CALL MOE AND ALL YOUR PAID PUMPERS?
should we contact all the banks and rat you guys out?
Should I post where you scum lease your cars from? and the mortgage companies that write fraudulent financial statements for your 10 - 20 % down mortgage deals?
let's start from there, eh?
I just hope they're not LAUNDERING MONEY through their new publicy traded vehicle
Are you Anthony?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
EDWARD..not good.
I guess the boiler room at http://www.carefreelifestyle.com is losing its power, eh?
there you go edgar ward. 40x 44..wtg..u can now use the lammy
lmao
are brokers allowed to receive comp for pumping stocks
?
isn't that like conspiracy
to commit stock fraud? 5-10 in the fed-pen
anthony and gary marotta.. are you guys reporting all your income to the IRS?
i mean the sec is now aware of the (in my opinion) scam but now the irs?
wow
;-(
larry still cookin them books in the back room anthony? is that illegal?
EDGAR WARD..LOOK @ THAT SPREAD ON CRFE..YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT..
GARY MAROTTA IS NOT GOING TO LET YOU DRIVE THE LAMMY THIS WEEKEND..
COME ON EDDY BOY..DO YOUR JOB, OR IS MOE DOING IT 4 U?
HIS NAME IS MOE, RIGHT? YOUR PUMPER IN NY, REMEMBER HIM?
Oh comon youhavenoidea... you had the link all the time!
Don't be BASHfull ... Jeeeesh Play nice NOW!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24850894
WHATS THE STORY HERE I GOT LOOPED IN SOMEHOW. DOYOUHAVEANYIDEA?
So are you saying Carefree elite is a fraud? Doubt it dude! Can you get over to ATNO/EBOF for me .....I need so reverse Pysch. to get them rolling like CRFE :) You working hard here on the guy LOL he must have done you wrong somewhere sometime....come on spill the beans....what did he do to you!
good one edgar..uptick it right before the close so it looks good, right?
l m a o
ANTHONY MAROTTA AND EDGAR WARD.
some of which was shared with the companies that were having their share prices manipulated.
READ THIS VEEEEEEEEEEERY CAREFULLY
Guilty: The $20 million spammers who manipulated stock market
Pump-and-dumpers face up to ten years in jail
14 September 2007
http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/09/saquella.html
The pump-and-dump stock spam gang face hefty jail sentences.
IT security and control firm Sophos has welcomed news that four men have pleaded guilty to being part of an international gang that used spam to manipulate the stock market, raising more than $20 million from investors.
According to the US Department of Justice, 47-year-old Michael Saquella (also known as Michael Paloma), 63-year-old Lawrence Kaplan, 38-year-old Henry Zemla and Justin Medlin, were members of a gang which spammed out fraudulent news stories to create artificial demand in stocks, pumping up the share price of 15 small companies (Beverly Hills Film Studios; Body Scan; Cor Equity Holdings; Courtside Products; eDollars, IFINIX; Integrity Messenger; Latin Heat Entertainment; Motion DNA; PokerBook Gaming; TKO Holding; Trans-Global Holdings; V3 Global; Xtreme Technologies; and Zuma Beach Entertainment).
The pump-and-dump gang then sold off their stock, netting more than $20 million in profits, some of which was shared with the companies that were having their share prices manipulated. Astonishingly, these firms were involved in the operation, although it is not believed they realised anything illegal was taking place.
26-year-old Medlin, from Paris, France, was one of the people hired by the rest of the gang to send out the spam messages.
Sophos experts report that pump-and-dump stock campaigns like this account for approximately 25 percent of all spam, up from 0.8 percent in January 2005.
All four men have pleaded guilty to counts of fraud and are facing between 5-10 years in prison when sentenced later this year. Saquella and Kaplan have also admitted multiple Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) violations. Three other defendants, Steven P. Luscko, Gregory A. Neu, and Brian G. Brunette, have already been sentenced to between 1-5 years in prison.
Pump and dump stock campaigns work by spammers purchasing stock at a cheap price and then artificially inflating its price by encouraging others to purchase more (often by spamming "good news" about the company to others). The spammers then sell off their stock at a profit. Sophos experts report that pump-and-dump stock campaigns account for approximately 25 percent of all spam, up from 0.8 percent in January 2005.
"The facts of this case should make it clear to everyone that there are fortunes to be made from spam, but that the penalties if caught are considerable," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos. "Pump-and-dump spam is a scourge in people's inboxes - not only does it clog up email servers but it risks putting the livelihoods of innocent individuals and small businesses in jeopardy."
According to Sophos, the public must also learn to exercise caution when deciding which companies to invest in and must learn to never trust an anonymous internet tipoff.
Earlier this year, Sophos reported how the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) had suspended trading in 35 companies as they were found to be commonly referenced in pump-and-dump stock email campaigns.
In July, Sophos published its Security Threat Report, examining the latest trends in spam, malware and hacking.
http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/09/saquella.html
Company Officers
Anthony Marotta, President, CEO
Edgar Ward, IR..whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
Edgar J. Ward III
Registered Representative
Empire Financial Group, Inc.
866.253.EFGI (3344)
561.544.0200
Fax 561.544.0222
eward@empirenow.com
EDGAR, ANTHONY
NEED GUYS ARE SLACKING..40 X 45..3 BIDS AND UNDLESS OFFERS?
WHAT HAPPENED? LET ME QUESS
LMAO
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/investors_contacting_regulators.jsp
What to Do If You Suspect Fraud or Manipulation in an OTC Security
If investors suspect fraud or manipulation in an OTC security, they should contact the appropriate regulators immediately. Email, send a letter or call any of the regulators that oversee the securities industry. Include in your letter copies of any important documents or letters you've already written to resolve your complaint.
If you believe that you have been defrauded by a broker, securities firm, investment advisor, or other securities professional, you should file a customer complaint or a regulatory tip with FINRA Regulation.
If you believe that you have been defrauded by an issuing company or a stock promoter, you should file a complaint with your State Securities Regulator or contact the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Office of Investor Education and Assistance.
Securities Regulators for the OTC markets
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is an independent, nonpartisan, quasi-judicial regulatory agency with responsibility for administering the federal securities laws. The purpose of these laws is to protect investors in securities markets that operate fairly and to ensure that investors have access to disclosure of all material information concerning publicly traded securities. The Commission also regulates firms engaged in the purchase or sale of securities, people who provide investment advice, and investment companies. Investors should contact the SEC's Office of Investor Education and Assistance. You can send them your complaint by using their online complaint form or contact the nearest regional or district office. SEC's Office of Investor Education and Assistance has offices in New York, Washington D.C., Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, Fort Worth, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco.
http://www.sec.gov
FINRA Regulation Inc. (FINRA) is an independent subsidiary of the FINRA that regulates most securities firms and brokers. FINRA regulates the activities of broker/dealers in the over-the-counter industry and the Nasdaq Stock Market. FINRA carries out its regulatory responsibilities through education, examinations, market surveillance, registration of securities personnel, advertising and underwriting reviews, disciplinary actions of parties that violate rules, investigation of customer complaints, and forums to resolve disputes. FINRA also regulates the sale of mutual funds, direct participation programs, and variable annuities. To lodge a complaint against a broker/dealer, contact the nearest office of the FINRA or fill out a complaint form on the FINRA's website.
http://www.finra.org
North American Securities Administrators Association (NASAA) is a voluntary association with a membership consisting of the 65 state, provincial, and territorial securities administrators in the 50 states, the District of Columbia, Canada, Mexico, and Puerto Rico. In the United States, NASAA is the voice of the 50 state securities agencies responsible for grass-roots investor protection and efficient capital formation. NASAA has an e-mail address for investors to report suspected Internet fraud. It is cyberfraud@nasaa.org. The Internet Neighborhood Watch program; where investors look out for themselves and their neighbors on the Net and alert regulators when they see something suspicious. NASAA will refer complaints to the proper state regulators, the SEC, FINRA Regulation and the Federal Trade Commission, whichever is appropriate. When sending a complaint, investors should forward the suspect message, give the Web site, if appropriate, and include the name of the state in which they live.
http://www.nasaa.org
GOOD JOB EDGAR WARD..GARY AND ANTHONY MAROTTA..43C BID..NICE MANIPULATION..YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SERIES 7 EDGAR WARD 111? YOU GETTING PAID IN CASH, STOCK OR A COMBO? YOU KNOW THAT'S CONSPRICY TO COMMIT STOCK FRAUD, RIGHT MORON?
Regards,
Edgar J. Ward III
Registered Representative
Empire Financial Group, Inc.
Company Officers
Anthony Marotta, President
Ian Lamphere, Secretary
Edgar Ward, VP Investor Relations
866.253.EFGI (3344)
561.544.0200
Fax 561.544.0222
eward@empirenow.com
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EDGAR WARD..IT'S 20 MIN UNTIL OPEN..MAKE SURE YOU PUT UP THOSE FAKE BIDS TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD. YOU KNOW WHAT U R AND U KNOW WHAT YOUR BOSSES ARE.. GET READY EDGAR WARD,GARY AND ANTHONY MAROTTA. LIVE IT UP NOW BEFORE THAT 8 X 12 COMES A LOOKIN 4 U
C R F E
CRFE — Carefree Group, Inc.
Com ($0.0000001)
Primary Venue: Pink Sheets
QuoteNewsChartsCompany InfoFilingsShort InterestInsider Transactions
Pink Sheets has discontinued the display of quotes on pinksheets.com for this security because it has been labeled Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) and because adequate current information has not been made available by the issuer of the securities. It has been labeled Caveat Emptor for one of the following reasons.
The security is being promoted to the public, but adequate current information about the issuer has not been made available to the public;
The security has been quoted on an unsolicited basis since it entered the public markets and the issuer has not made adequate current information available to the public; or
The security is the subject of a spam promotion having the effect of encouraging trading of the issuer's securities, or represents, in Pink Sheets view, a public interest concern.
Consequently, Pink Sheets has removed the quotes from this website until adequate current information is made available by the issuer pursuant to Pink Sheets Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information (PDF) and until Pink Sheets believes there is no longer a public interest concern. Investors are encouraged to use care and due diligence in their investment decisions. Please read our Investor Protection page for more information.
CRFE — Carefree Group, Inc.
Com ($0.0000001)
Primary Venue: Pink Sheets
QuoteNewsChartsCompany InfoFilingsShort InterestInsider Transactions
Pink Sheets has discontinued the display of quotes on pinksheets.com for this security because it has been labeled Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) and because adequate current information has not been made available by the issuer of the securities. It has been labeled Caveat Emptor for one of the following reasons.
The security is being promoted to the public, but adequate current information about the issuer has not been made available to the public;
The security has been quoted on an unsolicited basis since it entered the public markets and the issuer has not made adequate current information available to the public; or
The security is the subject of a spam promotion having the effect of encouraging trading of the issuer's securities, or represents, in Pink Sheets view, a public interest concern.
Consequently, Pink Sheets has removed the quotes from this website until adequate current information is made available by the issuer pursuant to Pink Sheets Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information (PDF) and until Pink Sheets believes there is no longer a public interest concern. Investors are encouraged to use care and due diligence in their investment decisions. Please read our Investor Protection page for more information.Contact Information Business Description
Carefree Group, Inc.
1029 5th Street
Miami Beach, FL 33139
http://www.carefreeelite.com
Phone: 866-800-1007
Fax: 866-800-1007
E-mail: ir@carefreeelite.com
Carefree Group, Inc. represents a consortium of assets and networks in the industry of luxury. The Company's interests include assets throughout the luxury travel, aviation, automotive, yachting, entertainment, and real estate industries. Carefree Group's Carefree Elite delivers an unsurpassed experience of luxury in accommodation, travel, entertainment, personal security, and premiere concierge services to its elite clientele. Members enjoy unrivaled privileges through the exclusive use of Carefree's inventory of luxury properties, exotic cars, yachts, private aircrafts, and superior concierge services and amenities.
Disclosure Category
No Information
State Of Incorporation
DE
Jurisdiction Of Incorporation
USA
Year Of Incorporation
2003
Company Officers
Anthony Marotta, President
Ian Lamphere, Secretary
Edgar Ward, VP Investor Relations
Number of Employees
13 as of Sep 13, 2007
SEC Reporting Status
non-SEC Reporting Company
CIK
0001295582
Fiscal Year End
12/31
Estimated Market Cap
894,960,000 as of Nov 27, 2007
Outstanding Shares
2,034,000,000 as of Sep 11, 2007
Authorized Shares
2,200,000,000 as of Jul 6, 2007
Float
28,000,000 as of Jul 6, 2007
Company Notes
Formerly=Synesi, Inc. until 10-07
Transfer Agent
Signature Stock Transfer, Inc.,
2301 Ohio Drive
Suite 100
Plano, TX 75093
Auditor/Accountant
Bagell and Josephs & Company, L.L.C.
Gibbsboro, NJ
The information provided here has been obtained from publicly available sources as well as directly from issuers in some cases.
Click here to update your company profile.SHO History No data found.
Short Interest Date Short Interest % Change Avg. Daily Share Volume Days to Cover Split New Issue
Oct 31, 2007 0 -100.00 619,944 1.00 No No
Sep 28, 2007 702 62.50 838,630 1.00 No No
Sep 14, 2007 432 24.50 275,439 1.00 No No
Aug 15, 2007 347 100.00 504,347 1.00 No No
CRFE — Carefree Group, Inc.
Com ($0.0000001)
Primary Venue: Pink Sheets
QuoteNewsChartsCompany InfoFilingsShort InterestInsider Transactions
Pink Sheets has discontinued the display of quotes on pinksheets.com for this security because it has been labeled Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) and because adequate current information has not been made available by the issuer of the securities. It has been labeled Caveat Emptor for one of the following reasons.
The security is being promoted to the public, but adequate current information about the issuer has not been made available to the public;
The security has been quoted on an unsolicited basis since it entered the public markets and the issuer has not made adequate current information available to the public; or
The security is the subject of a spam promotion having the effect of encouraging trading of the issuer's securities, or represents, in Pink Sheets view, a public interest concern.
Consequently, Pink Sheets has removed the quotes from this website until adequate current information is made available by the issuer pursuant to Pink Sheets Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information (PDF) and until Pink Sheets believes there is no longer a public interest concern. Investors are encouraged to use care and due diligence in their investment decisions. Please read our Investor Protection page for more information.Contact Information Business Description
Carefree Group, Inc.
1029 5th Street
Miami Beach, FL 33139
http://www.carefreeelite.com
Phone: 866-800-1007
Fax: 866-800-1007
E-mail: ir@carefreeelite.com
Carefree Group, Inc. represents a consortium of assets and networks in the industry of luxury. The Company's interests include assets throughout the luxury travel, aviation, automotive, yachting, entertainment, and real estate industries. Carefree Group's Carefree Elite delivers an unsurpassed experience of luxury in accommodation, travel, entertainment, personal security, and premiere concierge services to its elite clientele. Members enjoy unrivaled privileges through the exclusive use of Carefree's inventory of luxury properties, exotic cars, yachts, private aircrafts, and superior concierge services and amenities.
Disclosure Category
No Information
State Of Incorporation
DE
Jurisdiction Of Incorporation
USA
Year Of Incorporation
2003
Company Officers
Anthony Marotta, President
Ian Lamphere, Secretary
Edgar Ward, VP Investor Relations
Number of Employees
13 as of Sep 13, 2007
SEC Reporting Status
non-SEC Reporting Company
CIK
0001295582
Fiscal Year End
12/31
Estimated Market Cap
894,960,000 as of Nov 27, 2007
Outstanding Shares
2,034,000,000 as of Sep 11, 2007
Authorized Shares
2,200,000,000 as of Jul 6, 2007
Float
28,000,000 as of Jul 6, 2007
Company Notes
Formerly=Synesi, Inc. until 10-07
Transfer Agent
Signature Stock Transfer, Inc.,
2301 Ohio Drive
Suite 100
Plano, TX 75093
Auditor/Accountant
Bagell and Josephs & Company, L.L.C.
Gibbsboro, NJ
The information provided here has been obtained from publicly available sources as well as directly from issuers in some cases.
Click here to update your company profile.SHO History No data found.
Short Interest Date Short Interest % Change Avg. Daily Share Volume Days to Cover Split New Issue
Oct 31, 2007 0 -100.00 619,944 1.00 No No
Sep 28, 2007 702 62.50 838,630 1.00 No No
Sep 14, 2007 432 24.50 275,439 1.00 No No
Aug 15, 2007 347 100.00 504,347 1.00 No No
COME ON EDWARD..YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB IN THE PAST FEW DAYS..I WONDER WHY..WOULD THE SEC HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT?
LMAO
Edgar J. Ward III
raised the bid to 42..wow..go edgar go..u can now use the lammy for the week.
Edgar J. Ward III
Registered Representative
Empire Financial Group, Inc.
866.253.EFGI (3344)
561.544.0200
Fax 561.544.0222
eward@empirenow.com
A BROKER PROMOTING CRFE??
WOW.
ANTHONY MAROTTA, SHAME ON YOU
EDGAR WARD..YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SERIES 7?
RUT RO SHAGGY
RAN OUTTA STEAM EDGAR? SEC CALLED YET?
MAKE THOSE BIDS LOOK STRONG EDGAR
Just type in Gary Marotta, Anthony Marotta and Carefree lifestyle
http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/pubsearch.asp
Look for yourselves..It get's worse
HEY EDGAR WARD..YOU'RE DOING A GREAT MANIPULATION JOB WITH CRFE'S STOCK BUT!!!!!!!, "WHATCHA GOIN DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU, BAD BOY"..OH, I KNOW..FLEE IN ONE OF THEIR RENTAL LAMBOS?
ROTF
Danny boy still cashing in on this one ?
BOoohooo, where are you Dan ? Colorado, Skiershop ? Mail me when you arive there, would be nice !
Du peur ?
Copied from another board. I don't have a link but it is interesting anyways.....
BEFORE YOU BUY AN OTC PENNY STOCK
There are several key areas to look at when doing DD on an Over-the-counter pennystock. And it doesn't even include looking at the financial information.. . that is the least important thing to look at.
Share structure and distribution is the FIRST place our eyes should go when looking at an OTC stock. Don't even READ the news until you know whether or not 5 million shares were sold at .005 to a company in the Cayman Islands.
If so, you can rest assured that there will be heavy selling on any run up, as each new buy is met with an insider sell. And the stock will probably then get heavily shorted near the top. . and driven down to nothing. . and I do mean NOTHING.
And if the company does not report their financials to the SEC. . .RUN AWAY. Don't even consider them, because they will surely rip you off any way that they can. And if they SAY that they will soon be reporting their "audited" financials. . .run even faster. . .this means they have NO INTENTION of filing with the SEC. And even if they say "we will be filing with the SEC" or even "we HAVE submitted our financials to the SEC." DON'T BELIEVE THEM.
MDCE put out a half dozen press releases telling shareholders that they filed their financials with the SEC. . .but somehow. . .as if by magic. . .they have never appeared on the Edgars.
This stuff is the BASICS of penny trading.
SECOND, look at the HISTORY of the stock. . .was there a reverse split or reverse merger in its past? If so, there will probably be more problems or more reverse splits in the future. How long has the company been in business? It is one thing for a company to come up with an idea. . .it is CLEARLY another for same company to figure out a way to successfully market that product or service. . . and it is another thing yet, for the company to properly manage their money.
Take down the names of the officers of the companies, the investor relations people or firm and any other important parties. . .and do a "entire website" search at the SEC. This is not an Edgar search. . and can be found on the main page of the SEC, which EVERY penny trader should know very well. If your party comes up in the search, you can know their history. . if not, it does not mean they are "clear". . .they still could be under investigation or have played a smaller role in other scams, etc. . . .or just have never been caught. Be UN-trusting as a defense to loss and you will increase your chance at gains.
The easy way to do searches on SEC is to use "adj" between names like
John Smith. . ."john adj smith" . . if it is an odd last name, it should be fine by itself. . "stephanapolous" or "gianapolitana" or "santodominguez" etc. . .otherwise use adj on firm names like "La Jolla adj Capital" or "La adj Jolla adj Capital" . . this will keep the thousands of uses of "capital" or the city "La Jolla" from coming up in the search. It means literally adjacent" words.
THIRD, read the press releases with a cynical eye. . . if they say that the industry is reported to generate 14 billion in revenues each year and we estimate that our revenues in the coming year will be between 40 million and 60 million dollars. . .. RUN away.
If there is no LOGICAL and detailed explanation of HOW the company plans to make ANY money. . .then they don't. . . they just plan to sell shares. . to you? . . hopefully NO. . to the suckers that don't have a clue what they are doing. ANY reports of "projected" revenues should be based on PRIOR performance. . .if not, it is just a pie-in-the-sky arbitrary number picked out to make them look good to prospective penny traders.
If the company headquarters is in Vancouver, Boca Raton, La Jolla, Denver or Las Vegas. . . . RUN AWAY. There is an old saying in the record biz, where thousands of demo tapes are sent every week. . . "if we reject 100 percent of those wanting a record deal, we will be correct in our decision 99 percent of the time. . .and that ain't bad"
By catagorically denying ANY company hailing from these cities, thus rejecting 100 percent of them. . .we will be correct in our decision 99 percent of the time. And that is not bad.
Other suspect cities, which would require EXTENSIVE DD to justify,include New York City, Dallas, Houston, Palm Springs or other cities of the Coachella Valley, Ft. Lauderdale or other cities in South Florida, any city in Nevada, ANY city in Canada where everyone can short-sell penny stocks, any other "resort" city. . .
If Gucci has a store there. . .then chances are your company does not operate a 50,000 square foot building in the same town. . but rather is just one of many operations out of a small office there.
FOURTH. .INVESTIGATE. . . A good way to find out about the company? CALL THEM. NO, I don't mean to call the number they provide you. . .I mean call the local area directory assistance and ask for the company name. . . I have even gone as far as asked for the numbers of each of the officers of suspect companies, only to find that NOBODY had a listed number. . not even the company.
If the company has an unlisted number. . .think about it. . their customers or clients will not be able to find them. . they are absolutely bogus. If the CEO or his wife answers. .or there is a baby crying in the background. . .guess what? The company is being run out of the kitchen table of a house, and they want your money. . .why?
There are bills that need paid, that's why.
Another good trick, is to offer to visit the company headquarters on
short notice. . .say something like I will be in town first thing in the morning and would like directions to the company headquarters, so you can report back to your thread on Silicon Investor. . .yes they all read our threads.
If they say the company is moving, under construction or give ANY reason whatsoever for not allowing you there. . . you have your answer. . they are bogus. .don't believe them. . .if they offer to meet you elsewhere or to guide you in. . . decline and say, you may be late and insist on getting precise directions to the company headquarters. You will be amazed at the number of companies that will refuse to tell you.
If you are still interested in the company at this point. . .then you must ask yourself how much you are willing to lose. . . if you are "investing" 2,000 or more dollars, then go to Southwest Airlines website on a Tuesday thru Thursday and book a 33 to 99 dollar "internet special" flight there and go and see them for yourself. For just a same day trip. . or overnight if you feel adventurous. . .for just a few hundred bucks. . you can get a first hand account of where your money is going.
If they sell goods. . .you want to see the warehouse, shipping, receiving department. . .it should be impressive. . even if it is tiny. . if they sell services. . you want to see the laborers performing these services. . .if the company is nothing more than a small office with no laborers, because they "farm out" or their workers work "out of their homes" . . .RUN away. That is a lie. . the company is in business just to sell shares. In which case, be sure to note the leather interior of the CEO's car. . because that is what your 2,000 bucks bought.
Note the name or names on the door. Instead of the company name, does it say "capital.. .equity. . .investor. . .relations. . .financial". . etc??? Do
you know why? Because they operate NUMEROUS companies from the same office. . . in which case, your presence is not only NOT WANTED. . .it is threatening to their livelyhood.
If that is the case, I would not bother to even enter, as it may be a potentially dangerous or threatening situation. . . I would turn around and never look back.
But here is the part of penny trading that is the most important of all.. .and what I expect from each of us here on the fishing thread. . . when you have information about these companies like that described above. . and someone else is getting suckered into the same company. . . have the decency to tell them.
You don't need to go on the thread and tell eveyone they are invested in a bogus company. . .chances are good that they have already figured that out. . . but in the course of daily discussion, when the name pops up. . and you can shed some light. . do not hold back.
If they were unlisted. . say so. . if they have convertible debentures from an offshore placement. . say so. . .if there was a 1 for 100 reverse split a year ago. . .say so . . etc etc etc.
Not every company on the OTC or the Nasdaq is bogus.. . . but as I said on the Scammy Awards:
Welcome to the Over-The-Counter market of Electronic Bulletin Board and Pink Sheet stocks.
Out of 100,000 issues,
90,000 are scammys
9,000 are clueless
900 are really trying
Leaving 100 that are worth buying.
Thu, Oct 25, 2007
1:51 PM Carefree Group Inc. Re-issues Previously Announced Headlines - Business Wire
8:50 AM Synesi, Inc. Announces Name Change to Carefree Group, Inc. Effective Today, New Symbol: CRFE - Business Wire
Wed, Oct 24, 2007
reissue news? what did they run out of bs to sy??
lololol
OR MAYBE THE SEC FINALLY CALLED THEM WHICH I DOUBT, BUT YOU NEVER KNOWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WAIT..MAYBE THE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AND ALL THOSE CARS THAT ARE LEASED THEY HAD TO DUMPO STOCKO TO PAYO FORO THE PAYMENTSO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG
DING DING DING AND NO PAINT.
2 MIN TO GO EDDY. UPTICK IT..COME ON, WE KNOW YOU CAN DO IT
HDSN is KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILING THIS STOCK..ARE THEY SHORT? IS THE PARTY OVER..
PAINT THE TAPE @ THE CLOSE EDDY..MAKE IT LOOK GOOD 4 THE WEEKEND
PAINT THE TAPE @ THE CLOSE EDDY..COME ON NOW
EDDY..IT'S 25C BID.YOU CANNOT USE THE LAMBO THIS WEEKEND TO GO TO PINK
EDGAR..YOU'RE DOWN TO 27..GET HUDSON (GARY'S STOCK) OUT OF THE WAY..COME ON, DON'T YOU WANNA USE THE LAMBO FOR THE WEEKEND?
LLOLOL
nah..he's a broker that has a series 7.payoffs to brokers like what cfre is doing is illegal
conspricy to commit stock fraud
right eddy wardy?
Posted by: youhavenoidea
In reply to: youhavenoidea who wrote msg# 383 Date:10/26/2007 11:20:19 AM
Post #of 385
HEY EDGAR WARD..MOVE GARY'S 30C OFFER FROM HUDSON AWAY AND MAYBE YOU'LL HIT 31C. WE KNOW IT CAN'T BE ANTHONY'S BECAUSE HE'S A DIRECTOR , RIGHT? CAN'T HAVE FREE TRADING, OR COULD HE?
LMFAO
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