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It will bounce hard when it does!
I’m at long term capital gains… why would I sell shares. I’m holding for when this really bounces. Not trading it. We have established this. Thank you though.
You may want to consider selling some shares if there is a decent move up. I suggested that to you when the PPS moved to the .08 area and then dropped back to .032. Trading a "portion" of your holdings is not a bad idea. Just a FYI. HAWK.
Just checking. No updates. Four trades.
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Hawks back!!!!!!!!
Green shoots, again. I do not trust it. Short term trade, maybe. HAWK
Wodehouse, I believe you hold a similar perspective as many other shareholders.
Its so very obvious that the CYIO of Tim Carnahan and the CYIO of John O'Shea & David Lewis mirrors the negative results for shareholders. Consider just a few points:
1. while military software and Crypto appear to be very different - both started with high possibilities and great potential - but each descended into losses in earning potential and great declines in shareholder values and a steady eventual point of landing near the very bottom of any level of stock pricing.
2. each went thru multiple twists and turns of "possible opportunity and growth" yet failed miserably to acquire any factual value for the PUBLIC shareholders.
3. public shareholders never knew what level of value could the company gain with success - take as an example - the much hyped Slam Girl effort - how much of every dollar made in NFT sales would our company receive 2% or 10 % or 25% or ???? we have no idea because all the partnerships and linkages are left as "mystery potential".
4. In both operational methods - it seems we are always "late". So the current company has the latest "story" is Slam Girl (prior cannabis - prior Propy real estate - prior CE-FI De-Fi crypto - prior Crypto exchange - prior CBD and 24 etc. etc.). Now in early or middle 2021 - Slam girl could have generated a great deal of money (and depending on our split - maybe some for the public shareholder part of CYIO). But here we sit again - as with Carnahan and his needed system update which came way too late - we sit with a potential NFT winner - themed from Ethereum at a 2/3rds value decline from middle 2021 and an NFT market bloated with huge quantities and a declining interest besides. We had 24 too - which in 2021 could have been successfully marketed to well healed quality targets - but instead . . . . well . . . . we don't even know if they marketed the product other than "just being" on Amazon to the general public - instead of properly marketed to those who would have truly needed and desired it.
5. Until just the last 45 days or less - leadership must have thought the Carnahan regime was something to be admired as in virtually all profiles of financial news and stock information - the data was widely focused on the past regime of location, contact, and headquarters. Strange isn't it - both companies spent a fair amount of money of U.S. offices that provided little to no benefit to the company or its sales effort. Even with all the business additions of "New" CYIO - the employee counts of both companies was also similar.
My point is - in small business - "timing is everything". The 5th company who came out with "the pet rock" floundered miserably - while the first two "pet rock" businesses generated huge money and attention to their owners and shareholders.
======> There is no doubt CYIO/Helio had some good opportunities present themselves at one time early in the operation - "24" was a compelling product at a perfect time of commercial need in late 2020 and all of 2021. Also as an example was a very potentially interesting story CYIO could take credit for - NOT about Crypto - but rather how they saved a public company at very low cost from the SEC and kept the original shareholders involved and the potential positive press and attention (if it had been properly handled) they would/could have garnered very positive benefits for the stock interest of the company. But instead - their timing on both product & exciting good PR for the saving of the company was late or completely non-existent.
In summary - businesses who fail to make substantial money or benefit at the timing climax when opportunities arise are doomed to struggle with excuses that have leaky lifeboats to them.
And here we sit - measured in the shadow of the failed Carnahan regime and a stock price and pattern of misses and tardiness - just as the prior CYIO had as well.
JMHO.
I guess this dog has had its day, I’ve now become an official bag holder I guess. How sad oh well it’s my own damn fault.
Good morning $CYIO!!!
TXTM comparison.
Looks like prior to December 31, 2016 they started with the MJ. . And the similarities there are amazingly similar based on their history and CYIO.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/TXTM/news
Time will tell.........................
I don’t need to state the price of that stock… it’s up over 1000% in a week. It’s price speaks VOLUMES!
Beware of too much patience.
Hulk - you stated: "You take silence as a negative, I take it as an unknown."
Silence is a necessity when you are developing something highly confidential and when you have a pocket full of money to afford to have silence. Other than that - I absolutely take silence as a negative - ABSOLUTELY - because it shows a lack of understanding how public companies operate and how shareholders are willing to invest in troubled times as we are in. |I've worked for decades helping newer businesses become successful and helping successful businesses achieve still greater success. Steve Jobs was a master at it.
Just one of the several keys to success - is keep investors interested and encouraged by keeping them informed with HONEST and REASONABLE information - don't make things up - don't project what you can't achieve - and never avoid the truth.
As to the idea of crypto being cyclical and that it will rebound again - I don't doubt it could and can - but the pattern since 2007 by all the experts - is it runs in 2.5 to 3 year cycles. So if you want to wait 2 to 3 years for crypto to recover again - you're welcome to it - but we (CYIO/Helio) won't last that long and you need to recognize that IMO. The clock is ticking Hulk and I don't doubt Slam girl can make an impact if it was 2021 or beginning of 2022 . . . . but its not that time now - and now its impact is greatly changed if it does make an impact.
In small business - "time is money", and we (CYIO/Helio/Immortals Group doesn't have the money to wait. By the way - you've mentioned TXTM multiple times - yet you seem to avoid telling your audience the fact its a small stock at 1.6 cents per share.
JMHO
Lack to see future…
The future is NOT guaranteed, but what some posters lack to see is history. Bitcoin , ETh, and crypo in general all enter bear markets, yes right this moment crypto is not looking good. But if history repeats itself, it will enter a bull market again. NFTs will get HOT again. Your catalysts are the future of what happens with crypto. I personally am bullish on the future of crypto and NFTs. Thus it’s growth and rebound is a catalyst.
If I recall we only heard about a SF office once, I only remembered it because you continue to speak about. Personally I don’t care about it. There is nothing in fillings about it, so seems company is spending money on an office in SF. So not important to me.
You take silence as a negative, I take it as an unknown. Company could be working hard in the background. They were silent pre slam girl and then dropped slamgirl. Which one of the posters was bullish for a day or two… shocker.
The catalyst I’m focused on right now, is something from our past… no not the sanitizer but the Dr Choice CBD brand. With TXTM - the ceo of CYIO former other company - being acquired by the largest MJ farm in country. They have Dr. Choice listed on their website. We see what TXTM is doing. And now they have even more connections to TXTM other then just same ceo. Can Dr. Choice CBD bring some kind of shareholder value to us. Not sure. Time will tell. Hence there is a catalyst.
Catalysts you do see? Makes no sense. Any new developments for CYIO is a catalyst, any announcement on Dr. choice, slam girl, randomly, Helio exchange, Helio lending, immorals group.
Reminder Slam girl has a VERY Very reputable name with it. Actually two. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t put their name on a project they thought would fail.
Have to think long term and outside of the box.
Back to being silent!
You can't have GOOD CATALYSTS if all your powder is "wet".
And right now all of cyio and helio and immortal group's "powder" is wet. NFTS are down . . The things NFTs are built from like from (Ethereum) is way way way down And being crushed.
And crypto exchanges are way way way down.
WODEHOUSE doesn't see any catalysts and neither do I.
Do we even still have the San Fransisco offices ? And what is done there as all the Crypto effort that still remains is in Australia..
If you're clinging to the idea of big huge giant money coming from NFT Slam Girl . . . There is a simple example of how that has been effected. Lots of crypto assets are locked up and can't be traded or monetized.
1. Celsius and Binance both are locked up . And others have margin issues attached. Our most likely buyers of slam girl nfts are existing crypto holders.
2. Have you noticed since the Middle East show completed how we haven't seen any big press releases ?
What really bothers me, are snarky posters Who think they are too good to respond with civil answers.
This is incorrect….
“Its a great question Wodehouse, but they have no "positive" answers to give you so they don't answer.”
It’s a lazy question. Not a great one. If you follow CYIO you know there are several catalysts ahead. A simple search on yahoo, otc markets or Twitter will get you the info needed on up coming catalysts.
I refuse to spell it out for posters that have been here for 10+ years. They are not dumb.
Let’s not forget - CYIO has connection to TXTM now!
Good thing is as a “Believer” - I don’t care about Helio. I’m very interested in what they do with Slam Girl and the NFTs. So
we will see! Patience! Markets won’t be like this forever!
Yet another event to a large competitor of Cyio/Helio. And when is allied to clear. . . It will mean still more selling of Crypto. . . at ever lowering crypto prices.
Sunday June 19 2022 Just announced
Another crypto lender freezes withdrawals amid market decline
In a sign of deepening turmoil in the crypto community, Babel Finance has become the second major digital-asset lender this week to freeze withdrawals, telling clients it is facing “unusual liquidity pressures” as it contends with recent market declines.
“The crypto market has seen major fluctuations, and some institutions in the industry have experienced conductive risk events,” the Asia-based lender and asset manager said on its website.
It comes a few days after Celsius Network, another crypto lending platform, paused withdrawals, swaps and transfers. Meanwhile, a tweet this week by Three Arrows Capital, a major crypto hedge fund, raised concerns about financial troubles at the firm, adding to the sense of broadening distress.
A recent market downdraft has sent the value of all crypto below $1 trillion (£820bn), a precipitous drop from its highs of $3 trillion late last year.
Its a great question Wodehouse, but they have no "positive" answers to give you so they don't answer.
BitCoin on Saturday is now $ 18,700.64
What does that mean? Well according to a couple of those articles I linked the other day here - if BitCoin crossed below $20,000 its a sign of real crypto trouble - and here we are just a couple days later and already 10% LOWER than that danger number.
At the same time - we look at Ethereum's current pricing which right now
is $ 948.14 today. That's much lower than 10% decline since the other day - its almost 20% lower.
Now what "the believers" really want to say and tell you in answer to your questions is that NFT Slam Girl is "supposed to be" the start of recovery - but they can't say it because its not Spring of 2021 when NFT interest really went up - AND - - - - Ethereum was in the $2900 and $3000+ price value range - but neither of those conditions is now true - AND IS NOT believed to be true anytime in 2022 or even longer.
And then lets recognize that there is yet another concern - Helio it now turns out is a CeFi aggregator for 9 other lenders - in other words - they get paid a "finder's fee" on crypto loans that their exchange can initiate. And anyone knows that "finder's fees" are just a tiny piece of compensation - not a major financial producer . . . . . . > and . . . . . > and this is really important - many bigger and significant names are freezing loans and withdrawals and announcing layoffs in the 15% to 20+% range - and dealing with margin calls of considerable quantity and size . . . . . . . > that doesn't show a hot market for loans is currently ongoing.
Add those combinations above - and any reasonable analysis might be that expectations for the next 6 months and longer for the crypto market are anywhere from ====> not good all the way to downright ugly <====== depending on the brands of crypto we consider.
Now because NFTs are all universally Ethereum based and it isn't the spring of 2021 either for crypto or for NFT's - Helio and CYIO must be considering issues and problems with cash expectations that are likely greatly diminished from Helio's exchange activity or The Immortals NFT activity - and then there are all these competitors of much larger size, flexibility, and finances already sweating bullets besides and laying off people in chunks.
A final thing I spotted yesterday on the Helio revised website - is that it mentions in some detail certain things I don't understand they can advertise:
specifically:
1. borrowers using their crypto to secure loans don't need to be concerned about margin calls - because somehow Helio doesn't have loan arrangements that include margin issues. ?????? how does that work when Crypto drops 70% in just the last couple months? How can you say or do that - when everyone else has margin issues or considerations ?
2. I noted that the minimum loan amount that Helio can arrange is $50,000 or above. Seems like in a market filled with pressure and decline and interest in crypto - that finding the market that is ONL|Y $50,000 or greater becomes much much smaller when crypto is already devalued as much as it is. Surely there are some wealthy crypto holders out there - but its only reasonable to think the quantity of those now is much smaller in value and quantity. Meanwhile many of its competitors have smaller minimums as the market has become very strained and margin calls are growing quickly.
JMHO.
No my job to do YOUR research
Attention? Attention to what? Can you give us any idea of any catalyst or anything on the horizon?
You clear;y arent paying attention then. It's ok. #OTCSUMMER cometh
Well I guess I agree it’s time however I don’t see any catalyst or news that’s going to propel this thing up.
I agree - its time
Re: only an aggregator
Got confirmation that Helio does NOT do any direct lending or hold any customer assets anymore. They're 100% aggregator now.
The 2019 PR's that account for the pre-merger biz model (with the Lloyd's of London insured 100mil line of credit) are obsolete. They either don't have or don't use the LOC now.
The lender itself (to whom Helio has referred the borrower) is who holds the borrower collateral in a cold wallet. Helio is completely out of the loop at that point.
If there's a different PR that you're referencing that indicates they are direct lending let me know & I'll do the DD.
Based on what?
Again, what revenue producing operations does CYIO have?
What is their projected EBITA?
They company has been dismal since the pump and dump.
Surfkast, you stated "Another dismal week coming to a close,"
I don't agree - for many operations - this week has not been dismal - its been disastrous. How would you like to be owning MSTR about now - the head of the operation leveraged an ongoing public business to a very extreme level for Cypto - and margin call situations and significant debt problems are blossoming like springtime dandelions in a lawn.
Wow - its Friday and still an hour before markets open - and Good Morning America is doing a special segment right now about how bad being in Crypto is for investors and that they are down 25% JUST THIS WEEK and how high risk AND NOT SAFE & not Protected Crypto is.
Just watch how regulations will be stiffened and increased and restricted a bunch now. Celcius is specifically mentioned and how they are not allowing any withdrawals at all.
Looks like Oil, Silver, Gold etc.. will be definitely favored for some time to come.
Am I saying Crypto is "done" ? No. But when shows like Good Morning America are talking about huge losses and high risk and people losing $100,000 chunks as they interviewed one who has 2 kids, wife, etc. and no access to that 100,000 - the FED, Banking, Treasury, and SEC will be all over this stuff.
And what I've been concerned about the last 18+ months and more - smart small businesses understand when you have a chance to generate real money - especially unique opportunities like CYIO had . . . . . you run (don't walk) to the operating cash flow opportunities - you don't leisurely consider and delay. Its called "Elephant Hunting" and any smart sales head understands how it works - "you hunt to eat" what is available - and then you quietly and for short bursts of time - you watch for "elephant tracks". The point is - you can't exclusively elephant hunt or you collapse from lack of food and water - but if all you do survival hunting - its all you ever do.
Seems to me alot of our competitors are going to be very competitive as they struggle for food and water - are we going to be one of those - because we can't live off of what we haven't made all this time of opportunities we let go by us.
Anyone know what are we doing with that fancy offices in San Franscisco we have/had ? What do we use those for ?
Another dismal week coming to a close,
What has the company accomplished? What is the status of all the great things?
OTC DISCLOSURE & NEWS SERVICE
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CYIOS CORP WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY IMMORTALS GROUP IN COLLABORATION WITH SLH, LTD ANNOUNCE LOST SPIDER-MAN PARODY - ‘SLAM-GIRL’ TO PREVIEW AT METACON DUBAI POWERED BY GALA GAMESPress Release | 05/27/2022
CYIOS CORP WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY IMMORTALS GROUP IN COLLABORATION WITH SLH LTD. ANNOUNCE LOST SPIDER-MAN PARODY ‘SLAM-GIRL’ TO DEBUT AS LIMITED EDITION NFT COLLECTION Press Release | 04/25/2022
CYIOS CORP LAUCHES HELIO CYPTO EXCHANGEPress Release | 03/01/2022
CYIOS CORP, WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY IMMORTALS GROUP SIGNS EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENT WITH STAN LEE HOLDINGS HK FOR HISTORIC NFT COLLECTION OF A “LOST” STAN LEE-WILL MEUGNIOT SUPERHERO FRANCHISE Press Release | 02/16/2022
CYIOS CORP PLEASED TO PROVIDE UPDATES ON CURRENT PROJECTS, HELIO CYPTO EXCHANGE PLATFORM AND RANDOMBLY NFT MARKETPLACE Press Release | 02/02/2022
CYIOS CORP ANNOUNCES THE ACQUISITION OF NFT PLATFORM COMPANY RANDOMBLY, LLC Press Release | 11/18/2021
CYIOS CORP PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE LAUNCHING OF CRYPTO-CURRENCY TRADING EXCHANGE Press Release | 10/12/2021
CYIOS Corp to Acquire Helio LendingAcquisition, Merger, Takeover Announcement | 03/26/2021
Shareholders UpdatePress Release | 10/27/2020
CYIOS CORPORATION ENGAGES CICERO TRANSACT TO ACCESS 2.5 MILLION TARGETED USER DATA BASEPress Release | 05/04/2020
CORRECTION: CYIO LOI to buy ChoiceWellness, IncPress Release | 04/13/2020
CYIO LOI to buy ChoiceWellness, IncPress Release | 04/09/2020
CORRECTION: Shareholder UpdatePress Release | 04/05/2020
Amicable settlement and separation agreement with its former CEOPress Release | 04/05/2020
CYIOS CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FORMATION OF ADVISORY BOARDPress Release | 02/05/2020
CYIOs Update 28th Jan 2020Press Release | 01/28/2020
Friday morning concerns about Crypto and it's steady decline.
Well it appears now even numerous crypto bulls are saying "hold off of buying now". Why? Because they think it will be late this year or early 2023 for some meaningful recovery of value and in the mean time they are expecting declines to continue.
Strange how wrong the whole concept of crypto was supposed to be protection from inflation and recessession and analysts are now admitting Crypto has not resisted but instead has "led the way in losses and declines.
But here is their quotes and statements
All of a sudden exchanges only want to be aggregators and nobody wants to be holders. Crypto holders were supposed to be experienced and methodical investors and instead they are covering and cowering as they watch values declined already as much as 70% and it's only 1/2 a year into 2022 and the worst is supposedly still coming.
How are all these many exchanges and aggragators supposed to continue in business when Al the big profits come from other choices that are not being done?
Wouldn't you think a public stock like Cyio/Helio would want to get ahead of this thing and be communicating with its shareholders about where cash flow will come from to stay in business? But it's just silence. And Xeroe is checking to see if we aren't a CeFi and DeFi entity. . . Only an aggragator. That would be news to me as I've read the press releases and recreation they have used of themselves.
The link below is balanced coverage on the status of Crypto between now and end of 2022 . . . . Don't miss reading what the professionals are admitting to. It's a 3 minute read but a good read.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/should-you-buy-the-bitcoin-crash-some-crypto-bulls-say-not-yet-100354857.html
No no... I know where you're coming from. I remember the Lloyd's of London $100mil insurance policy. It was my understanding though that did not survive the merger and they went completely aggregator.
I'll see if I can get confirmation.
With all due respect Xeroe . . . Your post is in disagreement with what Helio has told us in their press releases and in their profile descriptions.
Yes they do some exchange activity with others who lend money out.
But they have repeatedly told us they are both a CeFi and FinFi entity.
They have also told us they (helio) has a $100 million dollar credit line of their own.
That seems to directly contradict the idea they only arrange loans and don't actually do some of them themselves. . . . . Don't you agree.
But then after all. . . A smart company would "get out in front" of the issue by publicly informing and clarifying.
In addition . . . . Cyio/helio is banking on their nft wffort to get them out of a very deep hole. And surely you and everyone else reading this fully understands Ethereum is the basis of all nft . . . And we all know the valuation of ethereum has collapsed from $3000 range to now $1100 range.
I'm sure that would be yet another important topic for them to communicate about..
TXTM had a lot of the same note holders as CYIO and look what's happening with that after months of "accomplishing nothing".
Things take time. Sometimes lots of time. Especially in the type of global economic conditions we're seeing now.
I think we've known for a while that the company risk exposure in crypto is nil.
They are an aggregator... meaning the people who need loans go to Helio and Helio shops those loan requests out to third party lenders. The lenders hold the notes... not Helio.
Helio has not had a LOC for a long time. From what we've been told they do not hold company assets in crypto.
With re loan defaults, it doesn't impact Helio because the end user and lender are the ones who ultimately completed the transaction and the lender is servicing the loan - not Helio.
Considering the above, it should lay to rest any questions about the company exposure to risk from the current crypto market.
Just yesterday I commented about the heavy loss of value in Crypto and my concerns about Helio/Cyio not updating us shareholders on their status and our cash flow and financial conditions caused by this CRYPTO sell off.
Well here today I'm showing an article just out today that talks about just how big this issue is and how widely it is effecting CEFI and DEFI and exchange providers.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-liquidations-spike-480m-last-100609020.html
Why do investors fail to take off the rose colored glasses? This company has not done anything since the new direction.
What have they accomplished?
Smart investors would also question the Blamford Ricks deal and who is reaping the benefits of the stock issuance.
The descent of Crypto the last 30/45 days has been stunning to any entities that do CE FI or DEFI activities. I would think Helio/Cyio would have recognized the imperative need to report to shareholders how they are doing as far as liquidity and ongoing operating income and/or cash flow - certainly not to discuss any profitability - but rather to communicate survive-ability and the status of their credit lines and sustainability until parts of their operation can be continuing ongoing operations.
Are they caught up in margin situations with clients ?
How has Helio's reserves fared since the drops in Ether to 1150 or BitCoin to 21000.
What is the status of the NFT products and their joint venture regarding Slam Girl?
Has Helio had any "corrective situation" requirements from Australia in the past 60 days? And how about our credit lines ?
What they need to explain is where they presently are in their business plan and the anticipated time frame to be revenue producing.
There are now many NEW questions that CYIO/Helio needs to respond to as this weekend has shown highly risky issues in the Crypto area.
Crypto has shown that it is not a protection against inflation.
Crypto has shown it can rapidly not only lose large value - but can rapidly de-stabilize when clients crypto holdings and borrowings can force substantial financial pressure against the entities involved in exchanges and borrowings.
Just as importantly - the largest crypto items are equally vulnerable as the small ones. Imagine if you have substantial crypto holdings at Celsius and it is frozen for exchanges and withdrawals or sales. Everyone is frozen regardless of your equity position as the articles are stating.
And CYIO/Helio - what financial footing are they sitting at? Are there margin issues with their clients currently? And will NFT sales and auctions be delayed even further with Ethereum just barely hanging above 1200.00. And is there any concerns about Helio's credit line ?
What Operation? Valid Point!
Slam-Girl, Metacon Dubai 2022, Shirrel Rhoades Speech
How about Director of Operations which I believe CYIO needs. -
We both know i can't post the link/s
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