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well there's no vouching for the validity of the posted info, luna...
i saw it on a boxing site and wanted to pass it along to the biggest barrera fan i know
omigod!!!!!!
say it ain't SO!
!@#$&&%%!!(*&^*^*!
(I HATE Effing Unions!)
BARRERA-MORALES II IN TROUBLE
PEDRO FERNANDEZ
IT JUST SEEMS TO GET WORSE!
If things haven’t been bad enough economically for the sport/business of boxing as a whole, it looks like the rescheduled World featherweight title fight between linear champion Marco Antonio Barrera and WBC counterpart Erik Morales is in serious trouble and maybe called off!
http://www.ringtalk.com/
Trinidad and his supporters believe the fighter held himself back that night (against Hopkins) with personal problems and outside distractions, which took his focus from the fight.
Whatever the truth is, Trinidad wants a chance to redeem himself.
"We are going to fight the best," he told Merchant. "I am the best, if not one of the best, and I will fight the best."
http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/fischer051202.asp
Fighter Of The Week Ending 5-12-2002
By Aladdin B. Freeman
Let me start this out by finishing a thought that HBO boxing analyst Larry Merchant started but couldn’t finish. Merchant was talking about how he loved the familiarity of Felix Trinidad but he didn’t really state why. In the past couple of weeks there have been some very questionable decisions where major titles have changed hands, where in the eyes of most of the boxing world they shouldn’t have.
What Merchant should have then said, but he got stuck in a rambling tangent of meaningless dribble was, it’s good to see a guy in the ring who doesn’t leave the fight up to the judges. Love them or hate them, guys like Trinidad and Randall Bailey do their best not to leave the decision in the hands of the judges by applying constant pressure, throwing a barrage of power punches, and getting into exchanges where you know some serious leather will be thrown.
Felix Trinidad won by TKO in the 4th round over Hacine Cherifi in a fight where Trinidad floored the Frenchman three times. Trinidad did use his jab more, especially in the third round where the jab helped him land a straight right hand that dropped Cherifi. Later in the fourth round, Trinidad drew Cherifi into an exchange and landed a big left hook that really hurt Cherifi, (had the ref not turned around to pick up the count, the fight might have been stopped). About 45 seconds later Trinidad caught Cherifi with a right, then a left and that was it. After the fight Trinidad said that he’d like to go right after Bernard Hopkins but he did say he’ll wait and see what happens with the Vargas vs. De La Hoya fight.
On the under card Diosbelys Hurtado stopped the hard hitting Randall Bailey in the seventh round to claim the WBA Jr. Welterweight title in a fight where both guys went down. The telling blow was a left hook to the body in the seventh that Bailey never recovered from. Hurtado should be getting a shot at Tszyu very soon, assuming Tszyu gets by Tackie.
The Fighter of the Week for the week ending May 12, 2002 is Félix Trinidad who raises his record to 41-1 with 34 KO’s and now will try to reclaim his spot as one of the best if not the best fighter in the world. I hope Trinidad can make a full comeback because we all know he will not run from a big fight and he’s been nothing but great for the sport over the last four years. One more thing, I hope that Saturday night puts an end to the hand wrapping issue where Trinidad was accused of doing it for added power. Clearly the way that he gets his hands wrapped is for protection and that’s it.
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/fighter51202.html
cherifi has always had two attributes... an awkward style and a solid chin
but felix trinidad solved them both in less than 4 rounds
Lennox Lewis talking about his June 8 showdown with Mike Tyson...
"I'm going to insist that he have a big lunch and a big dinner before he steps in there."
When asked if he could drive Tyson out of boxing forever, Lewis replied,
"It depends how well he can take this loss."
Friends Say Mills Lane Improving
Sunday, 12-May-2002
Story from The Associated Press (via ClariNet)
RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Friends thought Mills Lane was getting better when he got feisty.
Now that the former boxing and television judge is using curse words, they're sure he's improving since suffering a stroke in March.
His wife, Kaye, said one doctor told him, "`Mills, you're doing very well on your French, but now you have to work on the rest of your speech.'"
Lane has been released from a rehabilitation hospital, and will undergo outpatient physical and speech therapy at the New York University Medical Center in New York City, where the Lanes have an apartment.
The March 31 stroke affected 64-year-old's speech and resulted in mild weakness to the right side of his body.
The former district attorney and county judge starred in a nationally syndicated TV show "Judge Mills Lane" for three years until it was canceled a year ago.
He also refereed the heavyweight bout in which he disqualified Mike Tyson for biting off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear.
http://www.ptd.net/webnews/wed/bl/Amills-lane.RnaF_CyC.html
Showtime -- 5/18
9PM ET/PT
Kostya Tszyu vs
Ben Tackie (140)
plus...
Oba Carr vs
K. Toygonbayev (154)
***************************
HBO -- 5/18
11PM ET/PT
Micky Ward vs
Arturo Gatti (140)
plus...
Taped highlights of Naseem Hamed vs Manuel Calvo (126)
***************************
note from fightnews.com....
There should be no conflict on Saturday between Showtime's 9PM "Championship Boxing" telecast and HBO's 11PM "Boxing After Dark" card. So fight fans should be able to see the Kostya Tszyu vs Ben Tackie fight, then switch over to see Micky Ward vs Arturo Gatti.
hi mrs. peel
i think that bernard hopkins fought the "fight of his life" in order to beat trinidad last september. in other words, it took that kind of a performance to win.
i think it is very likely that hopkins will not have another "fight of his life" up his sleeve when the two meet again.
trinidad had no excuses for his loss, yet he had many. to clarify, there were real reasons that trinidad was distracted going into that fight, but he never cited any of them. i like that. he accepted his defeat like a true sportsman. and that will probably serve him well in a rematch.
george foreman mentioned something very basic that trinidad should be doing in order to beat hopkins. did you hear what that was? foreman said that when tito finishes punching, he should take one step to either side, and not stand in front of his opponent. that's key, imo.
he also said that trinidad does use good foot movement, but after he connects, he comes straight forward, again neglecting to use sideways movement.
foreman also criticized trinidad when he started bobbing and weaving. he said it was wrong to do that with a shorter man, that in effect, he was placing himself within the shorter fighter's range. tito did not persist with the bobbing and weaving, but i sure appreciate foreman's insights.
i enjoyed your comments on trinidad's performance, mrs. peel. tito showed patience when needed, and effective aggressiveness. imo, he looked happy to be punching someone again. trinidad enjoys hitting his opponent and watching their lights go out. it's his job.
i would like to see trinidad in at least one more fight prior to a hopkins rematch. i'd like to see him take some punches, which didn't really happen in this last fight.
trinidad is used to being hit. he has been on the seat of his pants and gotten up to win. so he knows what a big punch feels like. i think it would be good for him to get hit a few good shots and not be stopped. this will prepare him in the best possible way, which as we all know is mentally.
:)
mark
i liked it...he seemed confident, but not 'overly so'....seemed willing to wait to place his punches effectively...something about watching Tito's combinations that are quite exhilarting..he reminds me of a great swordsman or fencer...
how did you like trinidad's performance, mrs. peel
Trinidad starts comeback
05/10/2002
By Dan Rafael, USA TODAY
The comeback is as much a part of boxing as the rematch and the unretirement.
Aside from Rocky Marciano, every great fighter loses eventually. Then comes the comeback.
"What defines greatness is how you deal with the adversity of a loss," says Sugar Ray Leonard, who was 27-0 before suffering his first defeat, a 15-round decision to Roberto Duran in 1980. Leonard responded by beating Duran in the infamous "no mas" fight five months later.
"I know from personal experience that the first loss can be a devastating and traumatic experience," Leonard says. "It's emotionally draining. The worst time for a fighter after a loss is when he's by himself and there are no 'yes' men around. There's no cheering section. There's no one to build you up, and you, the fighter, relive that last fight in your head. Your head is like a VCR."
Felix "Tito" Trinidad's Waterloo was in September, when Bernard Hopkins knocked him out in the 12th round to win the undisputed middleweight title.
Eight months later, Trinidad's comeback starts. He meets former titlist Hacine Cherifi (32-5-1, 20 KOs) in San Juan, Puerto Rico, on Saturday night (HBO, 9:30 ET). Most believe it's a safe fight, that Cherifi is the perfect opponent to launch a comeback against because he has a name, he is durable, he is not particularly quick and he doesn't have dangerous punching power.
But no one knows for sure how Trinidad will react once he's in the ring.
"The question about Trinidad is his mental stability," Leonard says. "Does he have that? People want to see what he has and what Hopkins took away. Trinidad could be gun shy. He won't know until he fights. That's what is so intriguing about a comeback fight."
Says trainer Emanuel Steward, who has experience bringing fighters such as Thomas Hearns and Lennox Lewis back from losses, "There are always little doubts that they try to suppress, but they're there in the shadows.
"Everybody reacts different to losing, but most of the great fighters don't lose confidence. Being that Trinidad is such a high-strung and emotional fighter, I don't think he'll lose too much. He'll come back with more determination.
"He seems to have accepted the loss. Most guys find excuses to justify a loss."
Trinidad (40-1, 33 KOs), who won titles at welterweight, junior middleweight and middleweight, says he's ready to fight again.
"I think I have overcome the loss to Hopkins," Trinidad says through translator Bobby Munoz. "I'm positive that I have put that fight in the back of my mind so I can concentrate on Cherifi. Every world champion has lost a fight or even two or three or four. It's OK. That wasn't my best day, but I will overcome that, win this fight and then fight Hopkins again."
Steward was with Hearns when he suffered his first loss, a 14th-round knockout by Leonard in 1981. Three months later, Hearns returned against a tough but safe opponent in Ernie Singletary. Steward says that fighters often take a loss better than their team.
"Tommy was stronger than I was after he lost," Steward says. "I brooded so much over the fight, locked myself in the house. Tommy came over two weeks later and told me I had to come out of this. He said, 'Let's go play some video games.' He said, 'I lost the fight, it was a good fight. We'll just to go back and win more championships.' "
Leonard agrees: "My camp was more traumatized than I was. People were crying. But I gave 100% against Duran and I was OK with it. I didn't like it, but I was OK with it."
Trinidad's most dangerous moment will be the first time he gets hit.
"The second he gets hit, his brain will remember things real fast," Leonard says. "He'll remember the Hopkins fight, trust me. We'll see how he deals with it. I think he'll be fine."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-05-10-trinidad.htm
May 11??
woohoo!!! I won't be leaving until the 12th....thanks for the reminder...gonna watch for sure...
btw...I just read that Max Kellerman likes Tyson's chances..
:(
I like Max a lot....I wish he wouldn't be such a Tyson fan. <gg>
This is one of those fights that I really don't give a damn. I don't like Lewis and I think that Tyson is a criminal. Ambivalence is the strongest emotion I can conjure up.
Saturday, 11th 6:30 PM (PDT) HBO
Felix Trinidad (40-1, 33 KOs) returns to the ring against Hacine Cherifi (32-6-1, 20 KOs) in a battle of former middleweight champs in Trinidad's home town of San Juan, Puerto Rico.
i honestly believe that when tyson bit holyfield's ears he should have been banned for life.
but money talks, and as robert blake used to say<<
I agree with about the ear biting...such a deliberate act, no way it could be construed otherwise...in ANYONE's mind...
Robert Blake, huh....
now THERE's a name we haven't heard from in a long time..
<g3
:)
hi luna
it doesn't seem like a guy like tyson should even get a license. but maybe there is no requirement that the fighter follow rules or obey the referee.
i honestly believe that when tyson bit holyfield's ears he should have been banned for life.
but money talks, and as robert blake used to say
"dat's da name of dat tune"
:)
mark
I hope Tyson get's his ass whupped...
but I'm not sure Lewis can do it....I just hope no matter what happens Tyson looks really BAD....bad enough that people will say he's washed up.
jxm
re, http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=351412
i'd like to see lewis win. but i'll stop short of making a prediction.
in fact, as is so often the case with me and boxing, i'd like to see one fighter (tyson) lose more than i'd like to see the other fighter (lewis) win.
strange, huh
:)
mark
luna
i can't believe i did not respond to this question, luna. we must have discussed it in pm, or something. but sorry for the delay.
yes i saw the tapia fight. no i don't think he won. and from the way the post fight interview went, it sounded like tapia understood the magnitude of the gift he had received.
:)
mark
a chance?
yes
:)
mark
Does anyone believe Tyson has a chance of staying clean before the Lennox Lewis fight?....
Then he'll start breathing hard and either get knocked silly or else get himself thrown out. <<
There's no way I'm watching...
(except the rerun <g3)
I'm having html problems too...btw...
did you see the Tapia fight? do you think he won?
"Can anyone beat Barrera at this weight?"
I dunno, mr. mark, what do you think?
:)
BoxingChronicle.com weighs in on trinidad's upcoming bout....
Felix Trinidad KO10 Hasine Cherifi
May 11 - HBO
Of all the guys we'd put Trinidad in the ring with, Cherifi wouldn't be our pick. This guy has only two attributes: awkward style and solid chin. We're not saying he can beat Trinidad, but Tito is going to have to work hard to look good against his style.
another prediction from BoxingChronicle.com....
Lennox Lewis KO1/DQ1 Mike Tyson (WBC/IBF Heavy)
June 8 - PAY-PER-VIEW
Our first and foremost predicition is that this fight will not happen. If Tyson's handlers can somehow get the ex-champ in the ring, he will either be knocked out immediately or get himself DQd. Let's look at the facts: Since biting Holyfield, Tyson has had six fights: four against white heavyweights, plus matches with cruiserweight Orlin Norris and unranked Julius Francis. He's 10 years older, 25 lbs. lighter and 3 inches shorter than Hasim Rahman. Plus, Tyson's pot smoking and strip club training regimen mean that he hasn't been in or near top shape for almost half a decade. Worst of all, he won't even get paid for this fight. Look for Tyson to bob and weave and throw wild crazy bombs for about 60 seconds. Then he'll start breathing hard and either get knocked silly or else get himself thrown out.
Prediction from BoxingChronicle.com....
Marco Antonio Barrera W12 Erik Morales II (WBC 126)
June 22 - HBO PPV
Barrera won the first fight and he will win the second fight. Ever since that epic war, Barrera has gotten better (see: his demolition of Naseem Hamed) while Morales has looked shot (see: struggling against Injin Chi). I expect these guys to dispense with the boxing and go to war early and often. I don't think this one will top the first bout in terms of action of drama, but it may come close at times. Can anyone beat Barrera at this weight?
hey LP
any thoughts on clifford etienne's performance saturday night against terrence lewis? i know he has been one of your favorite fighters in the past, and wonder how you saw this fight?
it was action-packed, i'll say that!
:)
mark
two observations....
johnny tapia got handed a gift last night.
and the black rhino, imo, looked better in his victory than the showtime announcers were giving him credit for.
The Return of Tito Trinidad and Others
by Ferdie Pacheco, "The Fight Doctor"
4/25/02
Circle May 11 on your calendar. That's when my favorite fighter Felix "Tito" Trinidad takes his first steps back inside the spotlight of "Big Time Boxing. "
It's been months since Tito suffered a shocking beating and KO at the hands of Bernard Hopkins. He has spent the months following the shocker, in Puerto Rico licking his wounds, planning and dreaming of the day he can come back and place himself back on the pedestal. His rest has not been easy. For once in his life he got himself into problems with a woman. Lawsuits are flying. Tito, a very clean young man, finds himself embarrassed and confused.
So, it's time to clean the slate by returning to the glory road. His first test will not be a hard one. It's more of a reassuring return tune up, in front of an adoring audience in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Let's look at Hacine Cherifi, 32-5-1 19 KOs, a baldheaded, tough, ex champion. Not too easy, not too hard, just right.
Cherifi won the WBC middleweight title from Keith Holmes in an upset. He then gave it back to Keith in seven rounds. Then Cherifi took on William Joppy who proved too much for him. A good year ago, in a mild surprise, Cherifi was out-pointed by unbeaten Harry Simon, of Namibia.
It will be exciting to see Trinidad turn up his awesome machine, but then, come the riches:
Tito vs. Bernard Hopkins (a toss up, but I'll take Tito). Tito vs. the winner of Vargas vs. Oscar de la Hoya (lick your chops for this one). I think he'll have a tougher time with Vargas than with de la Hoya. So far as we can guess, Tito says it'll be three and out for retirement. I don't think so. He's too good to retire while he is still on top, and young.
Having satisfied our great curiosity about Tito, we now have a double treat, blue plate special to devour. A perfect, tossup, pickem fight between heavy punching, hungry Miami fighter Randall Bailey against Cuba's Diobelys Hurtado.
These levels of fighters, as good as they are, are still on the second level compared with the tough Super Champ Kostya Tszyu, master of all he surveys. He too will be on top Saturday May 18th from Las Vegas, when SHOWTIME brings you Tszyu vs. Ben Tackie
Back to the long awaited contest between Bailey and Diobelys Hurtado. Bailey lost his championship to Ener Julio on a controversial split decision then came back with 3 blowout victories and then knocked out Demetrio Ceballes of Panama. Bailey is on the war path. He is snorting fire.
Hurtado, 34-2-1 22 KOs, is a class fighter. When he loses, it's to the best.
His first loss was to Pernel Whitaker, which he lost after leading the entire fight on points. Tszyu leveled him after five wonderful toe to toe action filled rounds, so the loss was no disgrace.
This figures to be a great fight if you like to see fighters match wits and strategies. Look for the Diobles the finer boxer to build a lead, then the stronger, heavier puncher Randall Bailey to pull even. And, then, folks, we're in that championship corridor where we separate the men from the boys. I'm leaning on so lightly to, Diobles, but it really is a tossup.
It's always a great night when we get to see Kostya Tszyu fight. I don't care if he's fighting a kangaroo. He's one of a fistful of fighters the public, outside of boxing, will tune in to watch. His opponent is not much, Ben "Wonder" Tackie, but who cares? Also in a more level fight Oba Carr (remember him?) fights Hercules Kyvelos (Canadian Welterweight Champ) which is more of an even contest and should be interesting.
These two bouts will be seen Saturday May 18 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas at 9:00 p.m. on Showtime
Ferdie Pacheco "The Fight Doctor"
http://www.sho.com/scboxing/columnists_ferdie_fightdoctor.cfm?article=ferdie_042502.cfm
I completely agree.
Castillo won that fight.
Those Vegas judges really make me wonder....
Barrera is looming....I think there is prejudice there, yet his popularity is strong....if they "give" the fight to Morales, I think all hell will break loose....
So I'm hopeful professionalism will prevail.
''I know he's a gentleman and I hope he accepts an immediate rematch,'' Castillo said.
Mayweather said he was more than willing.
''I'm willing to do it again if he wants to,'' Mayweather said. ''The next fight won't go the distance, I'll give you my word.''
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/111/sports/Castillo_looked_like_a_winner_:.shtml
mayweather sure got handed a big present this weekend.
when they say he's a gifted fighter
they can point to this weekend's decision to indicate how gifted!
i was disgusted with the judging in that fight.
castillo was done a great injustice.
i forget, when is it taking place
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