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If they change to "Current Information", does that means they be back to Pink, or additional steps need for that?
Thanks for adavence!
Have a great weekend!
APRM
No. I'm reluctant to pick some shares up at this time. Perhaps when they get back to the Pinks, that would be a very bullish move!
I don't have the complete details, but my brokerage firm does not deal with securities on the grey market. I need APRM to get back to the Pinks or I need to find a brokerage firm that deals with the grey market. I'm waiting this out. The letter from APRM's attorney dated July 6th is encouraging and the company seems to be doing what it needs to get back to the Pinks.
I wonder what strategic opportunities are being discussed between APRM and Texo Holdings? Perhaps a merger?
Are you bidding on any right now?
Thank you, kind Sir.
Attorney Letter Regarding Current Information
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/APRM/financials
See the most recent document published on July 7th 2011.
Looks like an important milestone has been achieved to get the security back to the Pink Sheets and trading again.
APRM Still Alive
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/APRM/news?id=32479
APRM filing June 27, 2011 Information & Disclousre statement
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=54798
APRM filing June 27,2011 Financial statement Q2
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=54797
APRM filing June 27,2011 Supplemental information
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=54795
It traded 10k on the 23rd. Grey Market trading issues:
There are no market makers in this security. It is not listed, traded or quoted on any stock exchange, the OTCBB or the Pink Sheets. Trades in grey market stocks are reported by broker-dealers to their Self Regulatory Organization (SRO) and the SRO distributes the trade data to market data vendors and financial websites so investors can track price and volume. Since grey market securities are not traded or quoted on an exchange or interdealer quotation system, investor's bids and offers are not collected in a central spot so market transparency is diminished and Best Execution of orders is difficult.
Or is this just saying it is reinstated from being suspended and is trading on the greys.
that's what it is saying. however, it's not trading.
I can't get the link to work. Some kind of browser problem. Does reinstatement means it is off the greys and back to the pinks?
Or is this just saying it is reinstated from being suspended and is trading on the greys.
APRM reinstated 6/21/11: http://www.dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2011/nscc/otc/OTC118.pdf
most likely because they can't. when you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. there is a process for getting off the greys. few suspended companies ever do. there is no "aggresive" avenue for them to take.
Why hasn't APRM done something aggressive to get us off this grey market? And why the heck has the company not updated shareholders?
that is correct. mm's can not "make" a market. they are still involved though. they are the ones matching buyers and sellers. how else would it get done? your broker has given you bad info again. i suspect you called the "help desk." they are a fountain of bad info. call back and ask for the compliance officer and ask your questions again. it will trade as soon as a buyer is willing to pay what you are asking. if you really want to sell, keep lowering your price until someone bites.
No MM
I recontacted my brokerage firm (TD Waterhouse). The suspension has been lifted (contrary to what they told me this morning). They also told me that there is currently no MM buying or selling this security. Nobody can buy nor sell this stock until it gets picked up by a MM. I was told to enter a sell order everyday and if the order ever gets accepted then a MM has taken on the stock. If the order continues to get cancelled than there is no MM trading the stock. Looks like my investment is locked in for now with no idea when it will trade again.
i believe you are correct, the suspension has been lifted. but this is the problem with the greys. it's unsolicited. that means market makers need to match buy and sell orders. if buyers aren't willing to pay what the sellers want there will be no trades. it may take awhile for both sides to find the trigger price.
Weird. My broker, Zecco has told me that APRM suspension has been lifted and as of opening bell this morning it is trading on the grey sheets. I am just repeating what I was told. There is no volume. And the sell order I placed for a small amount has been accepted. Generally they don't accept orders, buy or sell, for stocks that are still suspended.
Still Suspended
Although I'm still convinced that APRM has tremendous potential, I tried this morning to decrease my position as I was way too heavily invested in this play. My broker advised me that the suspension has not been lifted despite the fact we are passed the 10 days. I have no idea if it will be lifted later today, in a few days or weeks.
I'm disappointed that no news have been shared with shareholders regarding the actions APRM has taken since the suspension was given on June 7th. In this particular instance, I don't believe that no news is good news. However, I still remain long.
GLTA!
Maybe someone is out there regurgitating our old release as some “stock to watch”… If that’s the case they have done nothing but hurt the Company and our Shareholders.
I can definitively state that I know of no one who is doing that and that the Company never paid for anyone to ever “tout” the Company.
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: Stock Guru
11/2/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.032 Volume: 7,276,524
Change: -0.008 % Change: -20
3 Month : High/Low: 0.09 / 0.014 Volume 3m : 351,781
Compensation: None Listed
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: StockRich.com
11/2/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.032 Volume: 7,276,524
Change: -0.008 % Change: -20
3 Month : High/Low: 0.09 / 0.014 Volume 3m : 351,781
Compensation: thirteen thousand dollars for a one time APRM alert.
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: College Stock
11/2/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.032 Volume: 7,276,524
Change: -0.008 % Change: -20
3 Month : High/Low: 0.09 / 0.014 Volume 3m : 351,781
Compensation: $5,000 by a 3rd party (Elite Media Consultants). We do not hold any shares of stock nor will we trade it.
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: StockStars.net
11/2/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.032 Volume: 7,276,524
Change: -0.008 % Change: -20
3 Month : High/Low: 0.09 / 0.014 Volume 3m : 351,781
Compensation: none
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: Research driven investor
8/26/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.015 Volume: 387,500
Change: 0 % Change: 0
3 Month : High/Low: 0.1 / 0.015 Volume 3m : 78,575
Compensation: none
Company: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group ( APRM ) Promoter: Research driven investor
8/25/2010
End of Day: Close: 0.015 Volume: 756,284
Change: -0.033 % Change: -68.75
3 Month : High/Low: 0.1 / 0.015 Volume 3m : 66,693
Compensation: none listed
bids and ask will be hidden i think
it's much worse than that. there are no bids or ask period. this will trade unsolicited, matching orders only. if there are a lot of buyers and sellers, there will be some liquidity. if you don't have both it will become difficult to buy or sell. anyone wishing to do either should use nice round lot numbers in order to make it easier to match up. also, don't use market orders. those who want to buy at market will end up paying top price and anyone wishing to sell will get the lowest.
one last thing. recently, many brokers have simply refused to deal with greys. your broker is under no obligation to do so. some brokers will trade for you but they won't do it online, phone orders only. some will do it online. if you intend to trade tomorrow, it's probably best to call your broker and find out how they will handle it.. don't ask their help desk for they are wrong more often than they are right. ask to speak with a compliance officer or the shift supervisor and make sure to tell them that they are coming off suspension.
it will be grey until the company can complete a for 15c2-11 and have a market maker sign off on it. that is a lenghthy process even if everything were to go smoothly. know that very few, and i mean very few companies EVER get off the grey sheets. it's almost always a slide to no bid, no volume oblivion. you will not get your current status back because you are no longer on pink sheets.
Has the skull and crossbones,,,if grey,,, bids and ask will be hidden i think..Haven't had a grey in a long time...will be a new experience for most traders,imo, I think the only thing shown is actual buys and sells no L2..
Also, I feel 99% sure this will be on the grey market, but do any of you know how long it will be grey? And when will we get our "current" status back? I believe they switched us to caveat emptor when the halt occurred.
I was wondering the same thing. Do you all plan to hold on tight to your shares during tomorrow's blood bath? I intend to hold because I still think the halt was horse puckey and because I still believe the company will begin operations at some point this year.
any updates about trading
Hmmm... so if anyone reports a "question" to the SEC, they can expect the companies stock to be suspended? How many calls or emails does it take to sucker punch a company that has no idea that they may be out of compliance? So if I'm an off shore tax free shorting hedge fund with alot of money to make things go my way, all I have to do is get enough complaints filed and BOOM, I get a suspension. Watch for counterfeit shares being dumped come June 21st, as it's an easy hide for these criminal broker/dealers since most shareholders will be expecting a pull back.
Now, if this company has nothing to hide, then they will be very transparent to shareholders in the coming days before the suspension is lifted. They will also work their butts off trying to satisfy whatever it is that the "SEC" is questioning. No doubt a file was dropped on their desk with nss hedge funds next targets. Some companies and management are not squeaky clean, look at Goldman Sachs, anyone see somebody from Wallstreet go to jail yet? How about AIG? No arrests for selling shareholders a policy that had nothing to back it up with? Oh my goodness, we are surrounding by corruption. How long will we allow Wallstreet to destroy small and large businesses?
APRM:
American Pacific Rim Commerce Group is a California corporation based in Florida. Questions have arisen concerning the adequacy and accuracy of press releases concerning the company’s revenues.
SUprised this got halted, I was actually going to start looking into gaining a position here. Hopefully it works out. The sec halted a dozen or so, so i'm glad they are looking into frauds, but im not sold that this is a fraud.
Ill be a little tentative getting in it now, but well see what happens when it starts trading again. Good luck to everyone in this
it will be grey. it's automatic. read the suspension notice.
Never seen one of these halts not trade on greys no MM will sponsor it
http://www.otcmarkets.com/marketActivity/caveat-emptor-changes
C'mon Raymond......you got about a week to get this straighten out.
As long as it dosn't go on greys i am likely buying on any dip.
Grey Market means NO financing.....imho. Raymond has all of next week to straighten this out. If he doesn't I'm afraid the price will drop on the Grey's......
hate to say it!
plus i think talarico has a little more eyes on him than others would (for reasons i have posted here).
hopefully it pans out for you.
I scanned the filings and didn't see anything that stood out. but there is obviously something in those that the SEC didn't like. it would be interesting to know what.
Thanks cbo, but i think we got a winner here and if lucky may be able to get shares much cheaper than anticipated because of this BS move of the halt, i am lucky to have only a small position at this time but was looking to increase it 5-fold just a few days before the suspension came down. Will do some more DD here and watch filings or PR's for more details but at this time looking to set funds aside for a nice entry when trading resumes and see if i can catch a dip as this stock in my opinion is highly undervauled.
I know, yet they let a POS like WNW* get pumped 1000% and dumped and do nothing????
sorry to see APRM halted.
this kind of crap just boils me viking... if I was the CEO I'd be pissed too. SEC lumps them in with the rest like some big sting operation. It's tough enough for a small business to make it, let alone have to deal with the SEC's inconsistencies in enforcement. They want a pat on the back? Start enforcing REG SHO and stop allowing broker/dealers to dump millions of counterfeit stocks into our market. When I start seeing some of these broker/dealers being pursued, I'll be happy.
You are forgetting that the broker/dealers will drop this with nss, sharholders believing in their company and holding won't make a difference. Everyone will "think" that shareholders are cutting their losses due to the SEC suspension, IMO it's just all a game. I'll bet the CEO never figured he'd have to fight Wallstreet on top of building his business.
A drop here would be fine by me, setting money aside for the mommet. I doubt we see a ""MAJOR"" drop here though... as APRM in by view as well as others already looks undervauled and the suspension seems undeserved.imo
the better question might be to watch out for the vultures who are waiting to scoop those shares up at a basement bargain prices. One can't help to wonder whether this is the whole intention of the SEC assisting broker/dealers, hedge fund naked short selling criminals giving them an opportunity to cover. Perhaps the day where NSS is eliminated or the uptick rule is put back in place is just around the corner, and they know it. I'm just guessing here, trying to figure out what REALLY is behind this move.
Any time the SEC makes such a spectacular announcement of themselves leads me to question, "what is this game really about?" Many should track what happens to these 17 companies after the suspension is lifted. Stay aware of what brokers are creating the most market... this is not about protecting us. If you believe that, well... got some land in Florida to sell ya!
If this company is solid, and you have done your DD, verified they have more going for them than a tracter and a cow, then you will not give up ONE share. If you got into this because of hype and not DD, you better rethink your strategy.
My thoughts are that any time a corrupt system is asked to CLEAN UP their act and ENFORCE their rules, they go the route that continues to hurt shareholders. The day shareholders actually come out ahead in their type of ENFORCEMENT will be the day I actually give the SEC a compliment.
They way it works, I believe, is that UNLESS Raymond proves there was NO reason to suspend trading, then APRM moves to the Grey Market........right?
here's the last email I got......
dateTue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM
subjectRE: APRM update
I won’t waste your time with the story I got, I probably can’t anyway. Suffice it to say that it’s incomprehensible that the company had its securities suspended for what the SEC says we did -- re-releasing a press release that supposedly ‘then’ had inaccurate information because of the ‘date of the release’ – you have got to be kidding. Incomprehensible?
Now that I have had an opportunity to speak to someone I’m simply enraged at the reasoning. You talk about the economic environment being – forget that…add to it the regulatory environment being onerous and it’s nearly impossible to make headway for a small business. What’s supremely disappointing is that we had lined up all our ducks--gotten current, ready to file the latest period (May 31) timely so we could attract investment and…this!
I can’t get into it as we are “in the moment” but I do appreciate the support.
Know this, we will respond at the appropriate time.
I am still in shock that we got lumped into those other securities that suspended. Talk about bad.
Unbelievable.
Raymond
I hate to ask this question...
But it needs to be asked. Any educated opinions on what will happen to the SP when trading resumes as of June 21st at 9:30am?
My opinion is that it will be very difficult for APRM to regain its integrity within the next 2 weeks and that investors will be heading for the hills (thus a collapse of the SP). Although, I'm usually wrong when I try to predict the impact of events. I would like to believe that APRM can recover and turn this unfortunate incident into an opportunity to prove its integrity and validate its business model. However, I think that is my emotions talking and not my mind.
If Raymond reads this board (which I doubt), here are a few recommendations to consider:
- After proving to the SEC that there was no foul play, it is imperative that the SEC put out a PR exonerating APRM from any unlawful behaviour.
- Another PR from APRM should then be put on the newswire acknowledging the SECs mistake and re-iterating that the company is legit and moving its business model forward.
- Organize a telecon with investors to calm everyone down and share APRM's 'quick response plan' to address this issue. Hopefully, this will avoid a sell-off on June 21st.
- Start providing answers to questions that investors are waiting for. (1) When will a new relations company be hired to expertly provide an action plan to address this issue and execute the plan? (2) When will financing be in place to finish mymyJ? (3) When will mymyJ get launched (need a realistic target date as some investors have been waiting 3 years for this thing to launch)? (4) Who are the American companies that will be providing merchandise on mymyJ? (5) What are your key assumptions and key events that drive the forecast?
Oh boy, I feel sick!
Speaking of PR's and projecting revenue, here's a PR released by OWVI outlining a partnership with APRM and their detailed revenue projections:
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=40182870
Fact is, these penny stocks release PR's with inflated revenue projections all the time only to sell into those releases. They then deny knowing anything about it hiding behind a gagged TA and/or hide behind the Safe Harbor Disclosure. It's high time the SEC began cracking down on everyone of these nickel & dime scamming companies who make a living deceiving others for their own personal gain!
what a complete load of hogwash. who signs the checks?
American Pacific RIM Commerce Group Terminates Consulting Agreement with International Monetary
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/APRM/news?id=31475
American Pacific Rim Commerce Group Terminates Consulting Agreement with International Monetary
Jun 08, 2011
OTC Disclosure & News Service
Citra, FL -
DATE: June 8, 2011
SOURCE: American Pacific Rim Commerce Group
TIME: Immediate
American Pacific RIM Commerce Group Terminates Consulting Agreement with International Monetary
Company Initiates Thorough Review of Investor (IR) and Public (PR) Relations Policies
Citra, FL. June 8, 2011 – American Pacific Rim Commerce Group (OTC:“APRM.PK”) (www.aprcg.com), was issued a temporary suspension of trading in its securities, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities exchange Act of 1934, commencing at 9:30 a.m. EDT on June 7 2011, and terminating at 11:59 p.m. EDT on June 20, 2011. According to the Order of Suspension of Trading by the Securities and Exchange Commission, trading in the securities of APRM has been temporarily suspended as, per the Order: “Questions have arisen concerning the adequacy and accuracy of press releases concerning the Company’s revenues”.
In response to the suspension of trading, the Company announces today, that it is taking action and undergoing a full review of policies and procedures related to public announcements and investor (IR) and public (PR) relations services. And, effective immediately, the Company has terminated its agreement with International Monetary to provide the Company with investor (IR) and public (PR) relations services.
Company President, Mr. Raymond Talarico said, “Based on our preliminary review of the Order, conversations with the SEC and our internal findings, it appears that a dated announcement was re-released several months later, absent important and necessary clarifications. That mistake, as simple as it sounds, was not caught either internally or by our consultants. The Company is making every effort to immediately cure the deficiency.”
Further, added Talarico, “The Company has clearly and repeatedly started that it is a Developmental Stage Company, per the Rule, and it has yet to produce revenue. We are working with our legal counsel and advisors to explore all of our options to protect our shareholders and the Company’s integrity.”
ABOUT APRM:
American Pacific Rim Commerce Group, is a development stage Company marketing “Made-in-the-USA” products and services manufactured by U.S. Small & Medium Size Businesses (SME) to consumers in Hong Kong and China through our proprietary e-commerce platform. APRM is a first mover providing SME’s transactional-based solutions; promotions, sales, logistics and currency conversion that will establish our backbone as the leading on-line marketplace between Chinese consumers and SME’s, with its proprietary portal ‘mymyJ’ (loosely translated); “Buy & Sell Festival”. To find out more about APRM, go to: www.aprcg.com
Safe Harbor Disclosure:
The information in this Press Release includes certain “forward-looking” statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of Federal Securities Laws. Investors are cautioned that such statements are based upon assumptions that in the future may prove not to have been accurate and are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, including the future financial performance of the Company. Although the Company believes that the expectations reflected in its forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations or any of its forward-looking statements will provide to be correct. Factors that could cause results to differ include, but are not limited to successful performances of internal plans, the impact of competitors, and general economic risks and uncertainties.
CONTACT:
American Pacific Rim Commerce Group
2985 West Hwy 318, Citra, FL 32113
Raymond Talarico
(352) 591-1785
The above news release has been provided by the above company via the OTC Disclosure and News Service. Issuers of news releases and not OTC Markets Group Inc. are solely responsible for the accuracy of such news releases.
That's what he told me in an email.....a FREAKING date!
This isn't about companies.....it's about stock promoters!
Companies will now be TRIPLE CHECKING any PR's or articles written to promote.......
Of course I'm sure some of those companies did do some questionable things.......I want to give Raymond the benefit of the doubt here.....
Of course, what choice do I have?
gl
APRM Terminates Consulting Agreement with International Monetary
http://www.babelation.com/feed/american-pacific-rim-commerce-group-aprm-otc-link-american-pacific-rim-commerce-group-terminate
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