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Re: fastlizzy post# 211796

Sunday, 10/13/2013 8:21:59 PM

Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:21:59 PM

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Chris Van Hollen - "Democracy has been suspended" in the USA .. all here again ..

How House Republicans guaranteed a shutdown: by changing the rules

Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 09:44 AM PDT

by Joan McCarter 103 Comments



Here's proof positive that Republicans own this shutdown. How badly did House Republican leadership wanted to shut down the government? Here's how much. They used an unprecedented parliamentary procedure to block any chance that the clean continuing resolution sent to them by the Senate would reach the floor. They did so by changing standing House rules.

Under normal procedure, here's how it would have worked the day it all fell down, September 30. The Senate sent over their clean CR. The House amended it with their anti-Obamacare stuff. The Senate rejected that change, and sent their resolution back. At that point, under normal procedure, any member would have been able to make a motion to bring the Senate bill to the floor. The rule that says they can do it is this:

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When the stage of disagreement has been reached on a bill or resolution with House or Senate amendments, a motion to dispose of any amendment shall be privileged.
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That means the chambers are deadlocked and any member trying to break the deadlock would be able to do so—would have privilege to do so. Except that in this case, for this continuing resolution only, Republicans changed the rule. They did it on the night of September 30, the eve of the shutdown, in a Rules Committee meeting. The rule change said that any motion to take up the Senate bill "may be offered only by the majority Leader or his designee." Meaning only Eric Cantor or with his approval. Which wasn't going to happen.

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"I've never seen this rule used. I'm not even sure they were certain we would have found it," a House Democratic aide told TPM. "This was an overabundance of caution on their part. 'We've got to find every single crack in the dam that water can get through and plug it.'"

Congressional historians agreed that it was highly unusual for the House to reserve such power solely for the leadership.

"I've never heard of anything like that before," Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, told TPM.
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There was no way in hell John Boehner and Eric Cantor were going to allow a clean funding bill to reach the floor the night before the shutdown. Because they knew that there were plenty of Republicans who would vote for it and it would pass.

House Democrats knew this was happening from the beginning, but unlike the Senate, the minority party in the House has very little power to do anything about abuses like this. They've been doing what they can do, trying to pass a motion to recommit every mini-funding bill the leadership brings up, to replace them with the Senate's clean resolution. But the procedure is arcane and complex and it's easy for the so-called moderate Republicans to pretend like those efforts don't exist, and to not do what they say they want—reopen government with a clean spending bill.

That makes those "moderate" Republicans as complicit in this as their leadership. The entire Republican Party owns this shutdown, completely.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/10/1246004/-How-House-Republicans-guaranteed-a-nbsp-shutdown?detail=hide

from your post ..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jd-iaYLO1A

and who are the members of ..

The Committee on Rules, or (more commonly) Rules Committee, is
a committee of the United States House of Representatives. .. down to ..

Members, 113th Congress

Majority

Pete Sessions, Texas, Chairman
Virginia Foxx, North Carolina Vice Chair
Rob Bishop, Utah
Tom Cole, Oklahoma
Rob Woodall, Georgia
Rich Nugent, Florida
Daniel Webster, Florida
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida
Michael C. Burgess, Texas

Minority

Louise Slaughter, New York, Ranking Member
James P. McGovern, Massachusetts
Alcee Hastings, Florida
Jared Polis, Colorado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Rules#Members.2C_113th_Congress

.. so Chris van Hollen has absolutely exposed the shutdown for what in fact it
really represents, an astoundingly undemocratic House Rules Committee coup ..

See also:

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The Reign Of Morons Is Here
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Ted Cruz: Savior or bane of the Republican Party?
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.. thanks, fastlizzy, that really is sumpin' which is sickening to understand .. a sickening
low place the most extreme conservative ideologues have sunk the USA Congress to ..





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