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Friday, 04/05/2013 1:35:45 PM

Friday, April 05, 2013 1:35:45 PM

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Sex education informs the young, helps to ease emotional stress and decreases the
number of human cells killed, so it's natural extreme conservatives are opposed the it ..

Pat Robertson knows the Haitian earthquake was god sent because of a Haitian pact
with the devil, so it's natural he is against sex education and for indoctrination ..

birth control saves money ..
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/03/06/148042609/how-birth-control-saves-taxpayers-money
.. for the government, and saves lives, so it's understandable extreme pro-life GOPhers would oppose it ..

a blastocyte is further from a person than a chassis from a car

birth control saves lives .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81362560

how old was Joseph when he married Mary? .. thought that would be easy,
yet couldn't find any even guessing .. must be missing something there ..

video break


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKMy65dyz4
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Sue Everhart? .. lol .. what can you say of a woman who warns many straights would have
fraudulent gay marriages cuz gov. benefit cash would outweigh personal social considerations ..

the link re the Scalia shenanigans .. .. is a good one
.. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/30/us/supreme-courts-glimpse-at-thinking-on-same-sex-marriage.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 ..

by memory that's about halfway down ..

the tragedy of the Chris Coleman 5 pager was a portrait of 'greed, sex, selfishness and narcissism'
.. it was horrible to read that one of the factors in his murder of his family was that divorce was a no-no
to his evangelistic employer, and he was afraid of losing his job .. in him i smelt evidence of psychopathy ..

Michael Reagan, of 'Sir' Ronald, is just another jerk who hasn't evolved with his time ..

picked this one up to introduce a bit more breadth in the church child abuse picture here ..

The Protestant Clergy Sex Abuse Pattern

Valerie Tarico - Author, 'Trusting Doubt'
and founder, WisdomCommons.org
Posted: 09/28/10 05:28 PM ET

One of the most striking aspects of the Protestant clergy sex abuse pattern is that most people don't realize it is a pattern. The Catholic Church has taken a well deserved beating in the courts and in the court of public opinion as former altar boys, orphans and ordinary parishioners come forward with appalling stories of sex abuse. Yet equally egregious violations by Protestant clergy fail to generate the same level of outrage. Why?

You might answer that the problems in the Catholic Church are uniquely widespread, but that would be the wrong answer. Last week's Eddie Long scandal, in which one of the nation's most politically connected and homophobic mega-ministers was accused of strong-arming gay sex out of teens, was just one tip of an enormous Protestant iceberg. The news monthly Freethought Today has a regular feature called "Black Collar Crime Blotter," typically a two-page sampler of fraud, theft, and sexual abuse taken from the media across the country. They just turned their archive over to the Kinsey Institute. A website called ClergyGoneWild.com .. http://clergygonewild.com/sex-abuse .. provides links to recent crime stories, including child abuse (206 articles) and internet solicitation (18).

This problem is nothing new. The first book on clergy sex abuse in this country, Betrayal of Trust .. http://ffrf.org/legacy/books/betrayal/ , was published in 1988. The perception that Catholic priests are overrepresented among offenders is correct. They do offend at a higher rate. But because this country is predominantly Protestant, more children are abused by Protestant ministers than by Catholic priests. In 1990, the Freedom from Religion Foundation .. http://ffrf.org/ .. issued a study on pedophilia by clergy .. http://ffrf.org/news/timely-topics/pedophilia-in-the-church/ . At that time, two clergy per week were being arrested in North America for sex crimes against children. Fifty-eight percent of them were Protestant.

Why do we largely overlook the horrific pattern of Protestant pedophilia and sexual exploitation? Here are a few factors to consider:

* The Catholic Church is easier to think of as a monolithic entity. That means it is easier for the press to cohere the abuse incidents into a single story and our brains to grok it. The idea of one big conspiracy appeals to us: "The Church" did it and then covered it up.

* The centralized hierarchy of Catholicism makes Catholic offenders easier to sue and guarantees deep pockets. The lawsuits in turn both generate their own news cycle and bring victims out of the closet.

* Since most Americans are Protestants, the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a story about "them." Protestant Pedophilia is a story about "us," which makes it less gratifying and more uncomfortable.

* Most Americans find the idea of celibacy peculiar at best. It makes for a more interesting narrative than a generic story about abuse of authority.


Has the priestly pledge of celibacy contributed to a pattern of inappropriate and exploitative sex by Catholics? Probably. But a look at the behavior of politicians and Protestant ministers -- even just those iceberg tips that actually emerge into daylight -- should tell us that celibacy is a small part of the story. The reality is that power is arousing for many male humans (and that male power and status are arousing for many females). The pattern is plain as day in Hollywood dramas, rape statistics, sexual fantasies, D.C. dramas, and clergy sex abuse. (Where is the university research on the topic?) And yet we continue to delude ourselves that Protestant ministers are somehow exempt from the endemic, that the incidents are isolated. We say that "absolute power corrupts absolutely," and yet we give ministers a level of deference that is unparalleled -- and expect our vulnerable children to do the same.

When Annie Laurie Gaylor wrote Betrayal of Trust 22 years ago, the pattern in Catholic congregations was to huddle the wagons around accused clergy. She quotes one defense witness who described the abuse as "one drop of ink in crystal clear water." Today, after years of repeated exposure, Catholics are less likely to rally to the side of pedophiles, turning potentially devastating ire and scorn on the victims. To Gaylor, the New York Times stories this week of Eddie Long taking the pulpit amidst standing ovations and catcalls of love is déjà vu. "Some Protestants are where Catholics were 20 years ago," she says. "We have a long ways to go."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/the-protestant-clergy-sex_b_740853.html

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