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Re: benzdealeror2 post# 198239

Sunday, 02/10/2013 1:36:02 AM

Sunday, February 10, 2013 1:36:02 AM

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benzdealeror2 -- kindly include links for any and all content taken from somewhere else, as remains the practice here -- and I believe NDAA uses 'belligerent' as a noun the meaning of which involves more than just some trash-talking

you know or should know the analysis is not that simple -- and that it's focused on what constitutes properly determining who is deemed a 'belligerent' against whom action may be taken -- a determination that is, or at least should be, in no way dependent upon or affected by whether or not the potential target is a U.S. citizen -- which is not to say that our Constitution isn't relevant, but is instead to say to that this is really primarily/more at the level of the law of war and of universal human rights

I share the concerns, understood in that light -- in practice, not so much concerned about this administration (which has, by the way and among other things, made clear that this sort of thing would/will never occur in this country, at least under their watch), pretty confident they could back up their decisions on a case-by-case basis -- the devil is in articulating definitional/limiting principles effectively, in stating in general terms a formal policy that limits mistakes and precludes abuses without foreclosing action that is appropriate and warranted in the given case, and in putting in place appropriate corresponding procedures -- the policy clearly needs to be better defined, and there clearly has to be much better transparency to/with the House and Senate Intelligence Committees so that they can in fact do their job of oversight -- as for potential targets who are U.S. citizens, perhaps the most cogent suggestion I've heard, one I do support, is that there should be some genuinely independent court/judicial branch review/need to approve of target designations, including concurrence in the assertion that capture is infeasible

the beauty of all this, of course? -- we created it, got it going in the first place -- going most directly back to Carter's and Zbig's excellent Afghan adventure ([linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=83848151 and preceding and following) -- as well as more generally back to our other/earlier little gambits (e.g. [linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=61131925 and preceding and following, http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=79995950 and preceding and following)



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