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Re: Sentrex1969 post# 78

Wednesday, 12/19/2012 6:41:47 AM

Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:41:47 AM

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Front Loading comes in a few flavors. Most of it depends as stated before on HOW in real-time... Both L2 & Time_Sales are acting/reacting to each other during what I've dubbed an MM_Shuffle.

Both Kimzerfantastic & Pennyonfire post when a stock is down say 75% to 90%. These are not 100% accurate in stating a loading is taking place, but a good indicators to keep in mind.

If you and others stop by this board: http://investorshub.advfn.com/Volume_Alerts-10DayAvg-Watch_List-21832/
You'll see where Kimzer has posted quite a few symbols that when spotted were down 50% and more.

First thing I would do is log those symbols, then check to see what's happened since. Remember too that most really big movers don't happen right off.

So we've covered two things:
L2 & TS
Down considerably

Something else that is a trade mark sign: Dormant or semi-dormant when you look back historically. Lets take this one:
#571 BWBA .004 260kvs1k_VOL 10dayavg -73%, kimzerfantastik 11/22/12 12:24:43 AM posted on 10Day Alerts board.

First scan it: http://www.profitspi.com/stock/view.aspx?v=price-and-chart&p=3769&i=BWBA&pv=recent-symbols&pp=BWBA#&&vs=634915115076015417

Then tell me what you see?

If you scan back 100 days which is very important, two days come up which are extreme 10day avg. volume alerts:

11/21/12 260k vs 1k_vol10dayavg
extreme 10day

12/17/12 245k vs 4k_vol10dayavg
extreme 10day

Also look at the OPEN on 11/21, .009 whereas down volume was only 55k but close down 73%

If you would have spotted this in real time L2 is extremely active on the BID side where as the ASK side seldom changes. It's a shifting/shuffling during this process. And it's obvious too this symbols has been very dormant for quite sometime.

A stop sign http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/bwba/quote
No fins since 2009 http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/BWBA/filings
and too, no ihub board BWBA

and if you check the years chart which I can only pull on on my trading software no changes at all, just a straight line of no activity in the PPS/Volume.

* So your looking one day:
* You spot a new symbol to you
* You use the L2, it's acting odd, bid dropping while ASK doesn't follow and other oddities to you
* You then tie in Time_Sales
* It's showing down ticks, then maybe an uptick which looks strange
* L2 MM's are shuffling back and forth in an odd manner

Everyone will have their own way of viewing each event, but those are the basic's.

I've commited on MM_Shuffle in the past: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/msgsearch.aspx?searchstr=MM_SHUFFLE
There may be some other points here.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/msgsearch.aspx?searchstr=10day

But make no mistake about it, the majority of times when this happens it is front-loading even though it may not move for several days or even months. Things may change on the other end and it may not move at all. But it's a signature move the day of and should be noted/logged/watched.

Also, Market Makers seldom if ever just throw shares out there on dormant stocks, not like what you see above. Yes they desire to get noticed when they are not busy and tape a stock a few times.

Those that cannot read both L2/TS during the day can watch Pro Traders Form and what Kimzer posts on http://investorshub.advfn.com/Volume_Alerts-10DayAvg-Watch_List-21832/

Also if anyone spots something like this please posts here and we can discuss.

Questions are always welcome here and encouraged!

sc

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Volume_Alerts-10DayAvg-Watch_List-21832/

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Pro-Traders-Forum-18631/

http://investorshub.advfn.com/How-to-SPOT%3E%3E%3E-Pre_EVENT-Front_Loading-25622/

BWBA? I'd watch this one closely and also see if more data is available, I am. :)

Also I wanted to mention this is not front-loading by ihubbers, far from it. That should also be logical if you think about it.

Don't forget about the ENYC example 11/26 and 11/29 http://www.profitspi.com/stock/view.aspx?v=price-and-chart&p=8465&i=ENYC&pv=recent-symbols&pp=ENYC#&&vs=634915135175145022

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