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DesertDrifter -- that's just twisted -- ontological Mobius strip

to begin, to frame it -- given the inherent imagined/imagining/imaginary essence central to the substance, the (vast range of possible/whatever can be imagined) meaning, of the term 'simulation': short of knowing not only all that is in and of what is within this universe but also all in and of what is beyond it (if indeed there is 'beyond it'), it is not possible to prove this all isn't a simulation -- see e.g. (in fact just a restatement/recasting of) proving there isn't a god -- so if they don't find the hidden needle they've conjured by imagining this all is a simulation and some computer running a version of their computer model is what is real, that won't prove this all isn't a simulation -- of course

next comes the whole "so OK, each of us, in our respective individual consciousnesses/awarenesses/experiences, exists only but for/thanks to something else apart from us that is the thing that's really real, a model/software running in some kickass computer which you folks imagine/postulate exists with zero direct evidence of its existence and no way for us to even know if we could actually directly know of its existence" thing -- makings of a good cult right there -- the Simulants -- "Keeping it Real"

OK, now a quick look at this magical universe-summoning theory and model method a run of which is what's really real and imagines us, Lattice QCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_QCD

so working from all we've already figured out, they've got a routine that can model a proton to within 2% of its actual observed mass, and, using the most powerful supercomputers we've got, can even (simlarly approximately, presumably) simulate one atomic nucleus (deuterium?)

and they propose to 'test' their proposition, that a model like theirs is what's real and we're just a simulation being run by that model, by parsing whether the computer running this little simulated universe of ours, a device necessarily put together by someone or something vastly more capable/advanced than we, might be running an older version of their routine which they've now refined to the point that it can even, again, model a proton to within (well, whoopee, they've got everything figured out now) 2% of its actual/observed mass?

sure -- can't wait for their answer once we've got computers that can scale their little routine by at least the better part of 10 to the 80th ( http://www.universetoday.com/36302/atoms-in-the-universe/ ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddington_number ) to see if a sufficiently-resolved universe like ours, energy signatures, Honey Boo-Boo and all, pops out
([linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=71430107 )

or, perhaps we really already are our (or somebody's) robot's (or robots') pets -- just, their virtual pets
([linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81774080 and preceding and following)

compare/contrast in particular (linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81925910

and thx to fuagf for also linking http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82417988 in reply, lol ( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82460133 )