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Re: sideeki post# 174520

Saturday, 04/28/2012 9:40:30 PM

Saturday, April 28, 2012 9:40:30 PM

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“The Republicans are the problem… Compromise has gone out the window.”

Saturday, April 28, 2012, 2:54 pm

Thanks for posting that most excellent study Sideeki!

Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and guess what? They’ve never seen it this dysfunctional in all that time, and expand on the point in their WaPo opinion piece.

You’re right, this is not the least bit surprising, but it’s still nice to get some validation from Mann and Ornstein… as if we needed any, right?

As John Dean tweeted, this op-ed is so important given the sources, and it deserves some real attention. Their premise is, of course, that “the problem lies with the Republican Party” and that when one party is so off the charts ideologically, then coming together with the other political party to work through and resolve the nation’s problems is nearly impossible:

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition. [...]

While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their 25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal post. [...]

Today, thanks to the GOP, compromise has gone out the window in Washington. In the first two years of the Obama administration, nearly every presidential initiative met with vehement, rancorous and unanimous Republican opposition in the House and the Senate, followed by efforts to delegitimize the results and repeal the policies. The filibuster, once relegated to a handful of major national issues in a given Congress, became a routine weapon of obstruction, applied even to widely supported bills or presidential nominations. And Republicans in the Senate have abused the confirmation process to block any and every nominee to posts such as the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, solely to keep laws that were legitimately enacted from being implemented.

As for how Democrats behaved when George W. Bush was in the White House, “the difference is striking.” That’s right, the Dems actually provided crucial votes that got some controversial legislation passed, like tax cuts, No Child Left Behind, and the 2008 financial bailouts. (Not that they should have passed some of those laws…)

That was then.

Their advice to the press:

Stop lending legitimacy to Senate filibusters by treating a 60-vote hurdle as routine. The framers certainly didn’t intend it to be. Report individual senators’ abusive use of holds and identify every time the minority party uses a filibuster to kill a bill or nomination with majority support.

Their advice to voters: “Punish ideological extremism at the polls.”

My advice to Mann and Ornstein: Shout ”The problem lies with the Republican Party” from the rooftops.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/04/28/the-republicans-are-the-problem-compromise-has-gone-out-the-window/

WHAT took them so long to write this ? ..For CHRISTS sake, we got this in less than 5 months in 2009! .. I know I know ... they are highly respected historians .. etc.. but DAMN! .. also, Yes, it's nice reading it .. as it validates everything we have been 'grumbling' about ... . for three years now . AND, I sorry to say that I do NOT believe that the press will change in any visible manner ..... even though Prominent and highly respected people are giving it their praise .. . .and that Praise is coming from BOTH republicans and dems .... I do not believe that the press will even burp.

..........Yes, I blame the press. They have seen to it that extremism --is now legitimate and an ordinary every day occurrence. Plus THIS:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74605930&txt2find=Press

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74621718&txt2find=Press

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/21/1085202/-Bill-Maher-on-how-the-GOP-has-gone-insane

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