Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:02:46 AM
Nice post showing some of the teamwork being done
Also in this post of yours too:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=64049658
Makes you wonder who else was working with wrongturn on the STHG debacle.
I'm sure there is a lot of teamwork and talking being done between promoters and pumpers (and sometimes company insiders) to make a front-loaded pump and dump as successful as possible for everybody (with total disregard for the well being of the sheep).
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I also look at some of the numbers being tossed around by wrongturn and others who brag about hundreds of thousands of dollars up to even millions of dollars being spent and made and I think a lot of that is highly exaggerated. I think most of that is meant to attract followers.
In reality some of these pumpers are probably just every day Joes who may be working in retail in Portland, Oregon or may be involved in the trucking industry in Concord, California or may be involved in real estate in San Antonia, Texas. You just never know.
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I recently came across this old recorded phone message between a long time pumper and a CEO with a shady history, Scott Wilding, from back in 2007:
"Oh Hey Scott my name is Laurie a,a, I belong to the IH group I got a following of a couple hundred thousand investors on multiple large Stocks picking Boards and have been following your stock a I see its down in that range triple zero range, Its just hanging there similar to my experience with I had with WNSH. I had a conversation with the CEO there before He sold the shell bought by another company the stock it went up 1000%. Um Can probably do a similar a a scenario with your company here if your interested. I have a lot of contacts A I know a lot of traders um er If there is anything going on as far as reverse merger sale of the shell anything like that a Traders Jump all over it. Things like that Probably bring in a billion volume in a couple of days if its something you would like to talk about my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx and if you want any assistance in getting a news out a story out to get some volume going generating on the stock I can help you out Hope to hear from you again my name is Laurie."
Laurie Mazzarella is now involved in with her own popular promotion website:
http://pennystocktweeters.com/disclaimer.php
Though she isn't as involved on the IHUB as in the past, I've heard her name tossed around as being involved with some of the most recent pumps like STHG.
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That phone conversation really makes you wonder... how often do some of these main pumpers get involved behind the scenes contacting shady CEOs trying to set up backroom deals?
Who knows how many of these pumpers and promoters may be getting compensated some how by the company to help pump a stock using some kind of fake merger BS or some other kind of misleading information and all with no disclosure what-so-ever.
There is only so much stock a person can buy in the open market before a pump without moving the stock and attracting attention. But, if you are CEO of a penny stock, especially a non-reporting one, you can pretty much get as much paper as you want, whenever you want.
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Was the whole NDA thing with EVCA an example of this?
How many people remember this press release put out by the RAMO CEO?
http://www.3dvisioninc.com/downloads/RAMOILPR%201.20.2011.pdf
Jan 21, 2011 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) --
RAMOIL MANAGEMENT, LTD. (OTC: RAMO | PowerRating), would like to make a corrections to yesterday's letter from the Chairman.
1) Phone Number: (323) 952-3754
2) The website is "Under Construction" and is being worked on and uploaded over the coming month.
Finally, we would like to thank all the shareholders for their emails, comments and questions. I would especially like to thank the oneshareholder, from Texas, whom I will not name. We had a wonderful 45 minute conversation touching on some issues we, as a company, need to address, like growth and shareholder value. I can assure you all that we were of a like mind on all issues tabled.
Sort of makes you wonder if some of the rumors about RAMO are true.
And if rumors like these are true:
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One thing is for sure there are a lot of people leaning the wrong way over the fence and playing a very dangerous and possibly illegal game with these penny stocks especially with the formation of the new microcap fraud working group set up by the SEC.
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Another thing I wonder about is the twitter side of many of these pumps. Wouldn't something published on twitter be the responsibility of the person publishing the information? So if a pumper uses twitter to run an advertising campaign for a stock they own shouldn't that be disclosed (the ownership and/or compensation they received). Is there really any difference between purchasing a domain and running your own stock promotion website and setting up your own twitter page to do stock advertisements? I wonder how the legality issues work with that.
Also in this post of yours too:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=64049658
Makes you wonder who else was working with wrongturn on the STHG debacle.
I'm sure there is a lot of teamwork and talking being done between promoters and pumpers (and sometimes company insiders) to make a front-loaded pump and dump as successful as possible for everybody (with total disregard for the well being of the sheep).
---------
I also look at some of the numbers being tossed around by wrongturn and others who brag about hundreds of thousands of dollars up to even millions of dollars being spent and made and I think a lot of that is highly exaggerated. I think most of that is meant to attract followers.
In reality some of these pumpers are probably just every day Joes who may be working in retail in Portland, Oregon or may be involved in the trucking industry in Concord, California or may be involved in real estate in San Antonia, Texas. You just never know.
-------
I recently came across this old recorded phone message between a long time pumper and a CEO with a shady history, Scott Wilding, from back in 2007:
"Oh Hey Scott my name is Laurie a,a, I belong to the IH group I got a following of a couple hundred thousand investors on multiple large Stocks picking Boards and have been following your stock a I see its down in that range triple zero range, Its just hanging there similar to my experience with I had with WNSH. I had a conversation with the CEO there before He sold the shell bought by another company the stock it went up 1000%. Um Can probably do a similar a a scenario with your company here if your interested. I have a lot of contacts A I know a lot of traders um er If there is anything going on as far as reverse merger sale of the shell anything like that a Traders Jump all over it. Things like that Probably bring in a billion volume in a couple of days if its something you would like to talk about my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx and if you want any assistance in getting a news out a story out to get some volume going generating on the stock I can help you out Hope to hear from you again my name is Laurie."
Laurie Mazzarella is now involved in with her own popular promotion website:
http://pennystocktweeters.com/disclaimer.php
Though she isn't as involved on the IHUB as in the past, I've heard her name tossed around as being involved with some of the most recent pumps like STHG.
-------
That phone conversation really makes you wonder... how often do some of these main pumpers get involved behind the scenes contacting shady CEOs trying to set up backroom deals?
Who knows how many of these pumpers and promoters may be getting compensated some how by the company to help pump a stock using some kind of fake merger BS or some other kind of misleading information and all with no disclosure what-so-ever.
There is only so much stock a person can buy in the open market before a pump without moving the stock and attracting attention. But, if you are CEO of a penny stock, especially a non-reporting one, you can pretty much get as much paper as you want, whenever you want.
---------
Was the whole NDA thing with EVCA an example of this?
How many people remember this press release put out by the RAMO CEO?
http://www.3dvisioninc.com/downloads/RAMOILPR%201.20.2011.pdf
Jan 21, 2011 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) --
RAMOIL MANAGEMENT, LTD. (OTC: RAMO | PowerRating), would like to make a corrections to yesterday's letter from the Chairman.
1) Phone Number: (323) 952-3754
2) The website is "Under Construction" and is being worked on and uploaded over the coming month.
Finally, we would like to thank all the shareholders for their emails, comments and questions. I would especially like to thank the oneshareholder, from Texas, whom I will not name. We had a wonderful 45 minute conversation touching on some issues we, as a company, need to address, like growth and shareholder value. I can assure you all that we were of a like mind on all issues tabled.
Sort of makes you wonder if some of the rumors about RAMO are true.
And if rumors like these are true:
--------
One thing is for sure there are a lot of people leaning the wrong way over the fence and playing a very dangerous and possibly illegal game with these penny stocks especially with the formation of the new microcap fraud working group set up by the SEC.
---------
Another thing I wonder about is the twitter side of many of these pumps. Wouldn't something published on twitter be the responsibility of the person publishing the information? So if a pumper uses twitter to run an advertising campaign for a stock they own shouldn't that be disclosed (the ownership and/or compensation they received). Is there really any difference between purchasing a domain and running your own stock promotion website and setting up your own twitter page to do stock advertisements? I wonder how the legality issues work with that.
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