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Thursday, 04/07/2011 5:16:38 PM

Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:16:38 PM

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A Reminder....and a Thought.



Two men called Damian Furtch a "fucking faggot" before beating him
in the West Village of New York City nine days ago.

http://inform.com/world/damian-furtch-beaten-called-faot-nyc-mcdonalds-4761137a

.........and then I read this.

Jesus as an openly gay man

What if the newly found codices provided evidence of Jesus's same-sex activity? Michael Ruse imagines the implications


Jesus Christ as unambiguously and openly gay?

Monday 4 April 2011 13.15 BST

The most astounding finding from the newly discovered lead codices is that Jesus Christ was unambiguously and openly gay. He and his disciples formed a same-sex coterie, bound by feelings of love and mutual support. There are recorded instances of same-sex activity – the "beloved disciple" plays a significant role – and there is affirmation of the joys of friendship and of living and loving together. [ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12888421 ]

A whole new complexion is given to that rather puzzling passage where Jesus exhorts his followers to break family ties: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14, 26). It seems clear now that this is less a negative repudiation of family and more a positive exhortation to join in affirmation of a gay lifestyle and love.

There is at least one new parable, that of the two young men. There are clear echoes of the relationship between David and Jonathan, for Jesus speaks of one young man having his soul "knit with the soul" of the other, and loving him "as his own soul". Intriguing is evidence that the Catholics might be closer to the truth about the status of Mary, the mother of Jesus, than are the Protestants. She has a much bigger role in the life of Jesus than many hitherto expected, with Jesus frequently returning home and making much of her.

Conversely, there is at least one incident when Jesus quarrels violently with Joseph, who shows great hostility and makes wild claims about "manliness". Before, one might have thought that, given Mary's virginity, Joseph's attitude was reflecting the ambiguities of his status in the family; but now it seems more probable that we have here a classic example of the Freudian triangle: over-possessive mother, hostile father, gay son.

Why have we known so little about all of this before? A newly discovered Pauline epistle, appropriately to the Athenians, suggests a major Platonic influence, particularly of the Republic. The classically educated Paul, who was himself gay, saw that same-sex activity was inimical to the success of Christianity in the highly homophobic societies in which he lived. Hence, same-sex affections and activity were concealed, to be known to and practised by only the leaders in secret – the guardians of Christianity as one might say. Obviously, this is a tradition that has flourished and lasted. It is not by chance that John Henry Newman is being made a saint.

Finally, the most important news is that nothing in the newly discovered codices challenges in any way the essential message of Christianity. Jesus was the messiah; he died on the cross for our sins; and through his death and resurrection made possible our eternal salvation. Our overriding obligation is to love God and we do this by loving our neighbours as ourselves. Christianity will never be the same again. Christianity will go on completely unchanged.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/04/jesus-gay-man-codices

This is from a series, sort of. The question: What would you add to the Bible?

........that was Mondays response. I can't figure out if that is the only one or what .. anyway here is the link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/04/religion-christianity


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