why you guys think in terms of bull and bear markets is beyond me...you limit yourself ..but if you insist on a bull/bear line in the sand...here it is <a href="http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SPX&p=D&yr=20&mn=11&dy=29&i=p27172200676&a=142133285&r=6972" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SPX&p=D&yr=20&mn=11&dy=29&i=p27172200676&a=142133285&r=6972</a> and by the way...I haven't touched that chart since first posting it over a year ago... <a href="http://www.traders-talk.com/mb2/index.php?showtopic=88703" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.traders-talk.com/mb2/index.php?showtopic=88703</a>