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Re: CindyH post# 1097

Monday, 01/26/2009 6:06:23 PM

Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06:23 PM

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Re: Benefits of diversified investments vs benefits of individual stock volatility...............

Dear Cindy, Excellent question. As a diehard stock picker for decades, it seemed an easy question to answer back in 1992. Back then there were no such things as ETFs (but there were closed end funds). The usual Mutual Fund was diversified across many different business sectors as well as diversified by multiple holdings in each sector. These were very bland investments for AIM. At best they followed the trend of broad market indexes - at worst they never managed to do as well as the indexes. So, the decision was pretty easy. Only if an account was very small in value did one use mutual funds with AIM.

If an account was large enough, then one could single out companies from a variety of business sectors and then have at least some diversification even if one had very few holdings in each sector. "Single Stock Risk" still played havoc with such portfolios, however.

With the advent of exchange traded mutual funds and specifically business sector funds the issue got a bit more cloudy. With Sector ETFs we gain a lot of diversification in numbers of companies in a sector. With multiple sectors we gain diversification similar to what a traditional mutual fund might have.

Yes, there's decreased intra and interday volatility with ETFs but we reduce "single stock risk" by a substantial amount. The sectors still follow a trend and the best stocks in that sector with be the trend leaders on the way up. If the market gets frothy, sometimes those best stocks will also be the ones leading the sector downward if they've become overbought during the rise.

So, since Mr. Lichello's model doesn't trade all that frequently when relatively standard settings are used, we don't miss that much "action" using ETFs.

Think of using an ETF sector fund as being an excellent filter for Signal To Noise. It tends to decrease the noise and therefore make the true signal more apparent. With AIM and ETFs the trend is what is going to be the dominent activity generator. You can expect multiple orders in the same direction rather than a lot of reversals. A typical pattern would be a bunch of buys, like what would have happened in 2008, then followed by a long series of sells.

The net effect in the long term tends to improve overall returns by reducing the number of severe losses. Think of it as taking three steps forward and only on back while an individual stock might take 4 steps forward but then two back.

Of course, if we now see 10 years of cyclical market with essentially zero slope, AIM will improve overall returns because of capturing whatever volatility occurs. In some studies I've done, AIM and a well selected group of very mature and high dividend paying stocks did better than owning a bunch of very high BETA stocks in total return. Again, these stocks didn't trade often, but quite effectively. Along the way there were also dividends collected.

So, I hope this helps a bit. ETFs transformed my own efforts as an individual investor. I own very few individual company stocks any more. ETFs and CEFs are all that I currently own in my IRA, for instance.

Best regards, Tom




Port Washington, WI 53074

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