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Re: dreaminofsailin post# 100827

Wednesday, 07/23/2008 6:53:05 PM

Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:53:05 PM

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<<As long as this is not a new version of the fake job wanted adds of another pink.>>
I know what you are saying. This SPRL “discovery” is in my hall of shame. :) Learning from that experience, don’t pay any attention to my opinions… only to the facts.

The reason I have not joined the Z Capital discussion yet is not because I was not invited, :) but because I have been waiting for email responses from several places. Now I realized that there will be no responses, so here we go.

1. First I’d like to claim “discovery rights” on this one:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=29333172
Of course, the website http://zcapital.org/ was not available then. So I contacted the guy from NikRealty:
http://cfo.allbusiness.ru/InvestMarket/InvestMarketShow.asp?TypeInvest=II&ID=9242
wondering how can I find Z-Capital to ask some questions about Z-Geoprom (NikRealty mentions Z-Capital as a partner). The answer was kind of strange: “Tell me what you want to know I will ask them.” So, I dropped this idea… until recent Dream’s found.

2. As you noticed the contact page on Z-Capital website doesn’t work. But professionals like I and SR :) can easily retrieve the email address it’s pointing to. I looked at the source code and there were several addresses that your request would be sent if it worked. So, I send my questions to all those addresses. It was a couple days ago. Waiting for the response I checked the contact screen again and… they edited the code (!!!) and deleted all contact information from the source.
Looks like they didn’t expect someone would be able to see this. I take it as a response to my request. Addresses don’t look “solid”. Three of them are free hotmail-like services, and one of them can be easily tracked through Russian search. It belongs to the user “senkinn”, who a). has been pretty active on Russian message boards; b). in 2005 was a high school graduate looking for exams cheats (it’s 5-6 hours difference between Russian Far East and Moscow, so people sell State test questions online); c). tried to sell some stuff (musical instruments) online, etc. He is probably 19-21 by now…

3. Registration address: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30834639
ul. Bolshaja Akademicheskaja d.15 k. 1, 375 – it’s apartment in Moscow. Building looks nice:


http://www.major-magazine.ru/gallery/details.php?image_id=144
and you can buy apartment there for about $800K:
http://www.amiteg-realty.ru/realty/search.htm?street=228

4. NEC connection. Everybody can become NEC’s distributor in Ukraine – just contact http://www.nec.com.ua/ . For example, Computec Ukraine http://www.computek.com.ua/ and WEGA Distribution http://itua.info/news/hardware/3468.html are official NEC distributors in Ukraine. I have not checked, but sure there are more. NEC would hire anyone to help it with sales.

5. Zabaikalgeoprom structure. Pictures on Aurus and Z Capital sites do look similar, almost like copy & paste, but… if the Aurus’ structure is just confusing and outdated, but basically was correct at one time, because they have Aurus name at the top: http://www.auruscorp.com/about_structure.asp?sec=about , the Z Capital’s structure is completely wrong and misleading: http://zcapital.org/images/structure.png . The questions about the structure were the main theme of my email to them. There are too many errors even to mention: “Ore” and “Northern Ore Technologies” are Belchenko’s companies that never belonged to Z-Geoprom; Klyon (Mapple) license was part of “Northern Ore Technologies” and gone long time ago, etc. At least Aurus’ picture has Zabaikalgeoprom name pointed to “Sirius” and “Alaska” (it’s real parts), but Z-Capital just ignores all the details and lists everything as Zabaikalgeoprom properties.

6. The interesting question, that I can not answer at this point: is Aurus management involved in all this Z-Capital adventure or it’s just SPRL-like hype mentioned by dreaminofsailin? First scenario would mean some interesting events ahead: JV, reverse merge of Z-Capital into Aurus, etc. Second one just means that couple of young Russian guys from Moscow are trying to make some money. Somehow, the scenario 1 looks possible to me. Compare, for example, Klyon pictures form Aurus and Z-Capital websites: http://www.auruscorp.com/images/index_aurus_r2_c1.jpg and
http://zcapital.org/ . Z-Capital’s image looks like it was produced using the original source, not framed Aurus’ picture. It doesn’t look like simple copy & paste. Did Aurus give them that picture? I don’t know.

Again, everything is just FYI with IMO. Make your own conclusions. To KELLY: Do I have “a first hand knowledge”? Of course not!