re Creede - <a href="http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=23855691" target="_blank">http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=23855691</a> re IVAY - I still hold out hope for a miracle here, so I still have a nice chunk of shares. Maybe, just maybe someday they will figure out a way.