Matrix999, and all -- bunch more re the Kochs (linked) at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120074878 and preceding and following -- and then there are e.g. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=103565432 and http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=136607994 -- and to tie in: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=137315661 and preceding (and any future following)