Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:52:26 PM
Inside North Korea Newest Documentary (2017)
"The US must talk to North Korea – not threaten war"
Published on Apr 25, 2017
in this documentary you get to see how north korean people really live in one of the rarest documentaries ever recorded.
While the media, and experts, concentrate on North Korea's ability to strike the U.S.A. with nukes, "in reality" North
Korea already has the ability to deliver WMD anywhere in the world. Wonder how/why? More detail from 26:26.
[An Anthony Dufour documentary.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madZhwKI2dA
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China’s Xi hates Kim Jong-un. But he hates instability more
North Korea has long been skilled at creating leverage from weakness – Xi and Trump are not the first to be frustrated by the strategy
‘Kim Jong-un’s madman antics aren’t just aimed at the US or South Korea and Japan … Pyongyang
is just as happy to keep Beijing off balance.’ Photograph: Kim Won-Jin/AFP/Getty Images
Richard McGregor
Saturday 9 September 2017 19.04 EDT
In Washington, all roads to Pyongyang go through Beijing, the only capital presumed to possess the wherewithal to reach North Korea’s reclusive young dictator, Kim Jong-un .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/kim-jong-un , and pull him back from the nuclear brink.
Certainly, Donald Trump thinks so, persistently tweeting his complaints about Beijing’s failure to rein in its fraternal communist neighbour, and even threatening to cut off trade with China .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/06/trump-china-tweets-trade-us-beijing-north-korea .. if it keeps doing business across the border.
Style points aside, Trump is not the first US president to assume that China holds the key to halting North Korea’s now decades-old programme to build a nuclear bomb and put it on a ballistic missile capable of hitting targets in America. Barack Obama berated Hu Jintao .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/19/hu-jintao-human-rights-obama , then China’s president, in private at a number of meetings to put pressure on Pyongyang. George W Bush took the risk of doing a deal with Kim Jong-il .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/08/usa.northkorea .. in 2008 to dismantle the nuclear programme, basing his decision in part on the belief that Beijing could see it through.
The CIA believes that Bush’s deal fell apart because Kim Jong-il became gravely ill .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/12/kim-jong-il-health-korea .. and decided to spend all his political capital at home to ensure that he handed over power to his son, just as he took over from his own father in the 1990s.
[We must keep that in mind when hearing sentiments as 'past president's talked for 25y with no good result, Trump likes to
repeat .. course Trump does not include the salient fact above as to one reason why those talks were not more productive]
--
It takes just one madman to press the button. We have two
Nick Cohen .. Read more .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/12/takes-just-one-madman-to-press-button-we-have-two
--
[Yes. Ok. Yet the point is one we all well know. There just feels like a bit too much emphasis on it, when some
more info. on the place and on stumpy, as in the video above, would be more helpful. (see reference below)]
In contrast to Obama’s private entreaties and Bush’s painstaking diplomacy, Trump’s complaints have been public, blunt and, thus far, worth all but nothing in forcing a change in Beijing’s, or Pyongyang’s, behaviour. Trump’s tweets have landed at the most sensitive time in China’s political calendar, weeks before the quinquennial ruling party congress, at which President Xi Jinping .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/xi-jinping .. is expected to secure a second term in office and gain absolute ascendency over the politburo.
Xi’s signature aim in office is to restore China .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/china .. to its position as a global power no longer pushed around by foreigners and it is hardly surprising that he has sturdily refused to engage Trump on Washington’s turf.
Yet there are deeper reasons for Beijing fending off Trump. Kim Jong-un’s madman antics .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/12/takes-just-one-madman-to-press-button-we-have-two .. aren’t just aimed at the US or South Korea and Japan. Students of the long-running drama on the Korean peninsula have long known that Pyongyang is just as happy to keep Beijing off balance.
"The Chinese message to North Korea has been: you too can
have an authoritarian government with a capitalist economy"
China and North Korea, in their official propaganda, used to be fond of saying the two countries were “as close as lips and teeth”, but such rhetoric always masked a much more tense history. Kim Il-sung, who established the Kim dynasty .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/north-korea-kim-jong-il-birthday .. in the north after the Pacific war and the end of Japanese colonial rule over the peninsula, always played the Soviet Union and China off against each other.
In the early 1990s, North Korea’s xenophobic siege mentality, a feature of the regime since its birth, was accentuated by Beijing’s decision to establish diplomatic ties with Seoul. China’s willingness to push ahead with its own market reforms also grated on its determinedly Stalinist neighbour.
For decades, the Chinese message to North Korea .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/north-korea .. has been simple – like us, you too can have an authoritarian government with a capitalist economy, and foreign investment, even from the dreaded American imperialists. As late as 2001, the Chinese closed down one district in Shanghai to give Kim Jong-il a guided tour of the General Motors joint-venture car factory.
The Kims never bought it.
[Hold it. If you haven't yet, in the light of Richard McGregor's position there you really should have a look at the video above, again
from 26:26, where, a little later, his father's favorite Japanese chef, and his own good friend, says Kim Jong-un really is very interested
in following the way of China. Apparently he is very impressed on seeing stores with so many goods on the shelf. From 26:26, have a look.]
For years, they criticised Chinese economic reform through their state-controlled media outlets, presenting it as revisionist capitalism from which the North Korean people should be spared.
In theory, China retains huge leverage over North Korea. China is responsible for more than 80% of both North Korea’s imports and exports, so it could easily apply a chokehold to its neighbour.
"You don’t have to travel far in Beijing to hear words
of derision about Kim’s personality and leadership style"
Kevin Rudd, former prime minister of Australia
The latest demand by western countries – for China to cut off the oil it sends to North Korea .. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/31/china-should-cut-off-north-korea-oil-supply-says-turnbull .. through the Friendship Pipeline under the Yalu river – is doubtless one lethal way to bring Pyongyang to its knees. But Beijing has always worried about what might come next. A paranoid Pyongyang could turn against its neighbour and deprive China of a vital buffer between itself and South Korea, which is still host to thousands of US troops. Worse, it could collapse and send fleeing refugees pouring across its border.
Like the US and Japan, China is opposed to North Korea gaining nuclear weapons, but this objective is one that Beijing weighs carefully against its other interests on the peninsula, to maintain the status quo and avoid instability.
In that respect, China is a victim of a classic North Korean tactic – creating leverage out of weakness. In the same way as his father did with the west, Kim Jong-un has cultivated uncertainty and an element of distrust in his ties with China. This ensures that supplies of oil and food continue to flow across the border, whatever else he may do.
“Xi Jinping cannot abide Kim Jong-un,” said Kevin Rudd, the Chinese-speaking former Australian prime minister, who maintains close ties with the leadership in Beijing. “You don’t have to travel far in Beijing to hear words of derision about Kim’s personality and leadership style. They universally refer to him as ‘Fatty Kim’, or, in more polite circles, ‘the Young Gentleman’ – but rarely as ‘the Leader’.”
--
Analysis North Korea's Kim dynasty: the making of a personality cult
On former leader Kim Jong-il’s birthday, Christopher Richardson examines the way
epic accounts of heroic feats formed a foundation for the totalitarian state
Read more .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/north-korea-kim-jong-il-birthday
--
Personalities aside, Beijing also understands that Pyongyang’s antics could work in its favour, by draining the US military of time and regional resources at a time when Washington is struggling to keep up with China’s rise in territorial assertiveness.
“If a North Korean nuclear capability puts pressure on the future of US alliances in Asia, then that’s a problem for the United States, it’s not a problem for China,” said Rudd, in a recent speech in Stockholm. “There is also I believe an even deeper view within the Chinese military that a North Korean nuclear capability is a nine-out-of-10 problem for America, and a one-out-of-10 problem for China.”
Richard McGregor is a Washington-based author and journalist. His book Asia’s Reckoning: The Struggle for Global Dominance is published by Allen Lane
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/09/north-korea-china-xi-jinping
See also:
How does the world deal with a new nuclear power?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134492571
"The US must talk to North Korea – not threaten war"
Published on Apr 25, 2017
in this documentary you get to see how north korean people really live in one of the rarest documentaries ever recorded.
While the media, and experts, concentrate on North Korea's ability to strike the U.S.A. with nukes, "in reality" North
Korea already has the ability to deliver WMD anywhere in the world. Wonder how/why? More detail from 26:26.
[An Anthony Dufour documentary.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madZhwKI2dA
--
China’s Xi hates Kim Jong-un. But he hates instability more
North Korea has long been skilled at creating leverage from weakness – Xi and Trump are not the first to be frustrated by the strategy
‘Kim Jong-un’s madman antics aren’t just aimed at the US or South Korea and Japan … Pyongyang
is just as happy to keep Beijing off balance.’ Photograph: Kim Won-Jin/AFP/Getty Images
Richard McGregor
Saturday 9 September 2017 19.04 EDT
In Washington, all roads to Pyongyang go through Beijing, the only capital presumed to possess the wherewithal to reach North Korea’s reclusive young dictator, Kim Jong-un .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/kim-jong-un , and pull him back from the nuclear brink.
Certainly, Donald Trump thinks so, persistently tweeting his complaints about Beijing’s failure to rein in its fraternal communist neighbour, and even threatening to cut off trade with China .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/06/trump-china-tweets-trade-us-beijing-north-korea .. if it keeps doing business across the border.
Style points aside, Trump is not the first US president to assume that China holds the key to halting North Korea’s now decades-old programme to build a nuclear bomb and put it on a ballistic missile capable of hitting targets in America. Barack Obama berated Hu Jintao .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/19/hu-jintao-human-rights-obama , then China’s president, in private at a number of meetings to put pressure on Pyongyang. George W Bush took the risk of doing a deal with Kim Jong-il .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/08/usa.northkorea .. in 2008 to dismantle the nuclear programme, basing his decision in part on the belief that Beijing could see it through.
The CIA believes that Bush’s deal fell apart because Kim Jong-il became gravely ill .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/12/kim-jong-il-health-korea .. and decided to spend all his political capital at home to ensure that he handed over power to his son, just as he took over from his own father in the 1990s.
[We must keep that in mind when hearing sentiments as 'past president's talked for 25y with no good result, Trump likes to
repeat .. course Trump does not include the salient fact above as to one reason why those talks were not more productive]
--
It takes just one madman to press the button. We have two
Nick Cohen .. Read more .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/12/takes-just-one-madman-to-press-button-we-have-two
--
[Yes. Ok. Yet the point is one we all well know. There just feels like a bit too much emphasis on it, when some
more info. on the place and on stumpy, as in the video above, would be more helpful. (see reference below)]
In contrast to Obama’s private entreaties and Bush’s painstaking diplomacy, Trump’s complaints have been public, blunt and, thus far, worth all but nothing in forcing a change in Beijing’s, or Pyongyang’s, behaviour. Trump’s tweets have landed at the most sensitive time in China’s political calendar, weeks before the quinquennial ruling party congress, at which President Xi Jinping .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/xi-jinping .. is expected to secure a second term in office and gain absolute ascendency over the politburo.
Xi’s signature aim in office is to restore China .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/china .. to its position as a global power no longer pushed around by foreigners and it is hardly surprising that he has sturdily refused to engage Trump on Washington’s turf.
Yet there are deeper reasons for Beijing fending off Trump. Kim Jong-un’s madman antics .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/12/takes-just-one-madman-to-press-button-we-have-two .. aren’t just aimed at the US or South Korea and Japan. Students of the long-running drama on the Korean peninsula have long known that Pyongyang is just as happy to keep Beijing off balance.
"The Chinese message to North Korea has been: you too can
have an authoritarian government with a capitalist economy"
China and North Korea, in their official propaganda, used to be fond of saying the two countries were “as close as lips and teeth”, but such rhetoric always masked a much more tense history. Kim Il-sung, who established the Kim dynasty .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/north-korea-kim-jong-il-birthday .. in the north after the Pacific war and the end of Japanese colonial rule over the peninsula, always played the Soviet Union and China off against each other.
In the early 1990s, North Korea’s xenophobic siege mentality, a feature of the regime since its birth, was accentuated by Beijing’s decision to establish diplomatic ties with Seoul. China’s willingness to push ahead with its own market reforms also grated on its determinedly Stalinist neighbour.
For decades, the Chinese message to North Korea .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/north-korea .. has been simple – like us, you too can have an authoritarian government with a capitalist economy, and foreign investment, even from the dreaded American imperialists. As late as 2001, the Chinese closed down one district in Shanghai to give Kim Jong-il a guided tour of the General Motors joint-venture car factory.
The Kims never bought it.
[Hold it. If you haven't yet, in the light of Richard McGregor's position there you really should have a look at the video above, again
from 26:26, where, a little later, his father's favorite Japanese chef, and his own good friend, says Kim Jong-un really is very interested
in following the way of China. Apparently he is very impressed on seeing stores with so many goods on the shelf. From 26:26, have a look.]
For years, they criticised Chinese economic reform through their state-controlled media outlets, presenting it as revisionist capitalism from which the North Korean people should be spared.
In theory, China retains huge leverage over North Korea. China is responsible for more than 80% of both North Korea’s imports and exports, so it could easily apply a chokehold to its neighbour.
"You don’t have to travel far in Beijing to hear words
of derision about Kim’s personality and leadership style"
Kevin Rudd, former prime minister of Australia
The latest demand by western countries – for China to cut off the oil it sends to North Korea .. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/31/china-should-cut-off-north-korea-oil-supply-says-turnbull .. through the Friendship Pipeline under the Yalu river – is doubtless one lethal way to bring Pyongyang to its knees. But Beijing has always worried about what might come next. A paranoid Pyongyang could turn against its neighbour and deprive China of a vital buffer between itself and South Korea, which is still host to thousands of US troops. Worse, it could collapse and send fleeing refugees pouring across its border.
Like the US and Japan, China is opposed to North Korea gaining nuclear weapons, but this objective is one that Beijing weighs carefully against its other interests on the peninsula, to maintain the status quo and avoid instability.
In that respect, China is a victim of a classic North Korean tactic – creating leverage out of weakness. In the same way as his father did with the west, Kim Jong-un has cultivated uncertainty and an element of distrust in his ties with China. This ensures that supplies of oil and food continue to flow across the border, whatever else he may do.
“Xi Jinping cannot abide Kim Jong-un,” said Kevin Rudd, the Chinese-speaking former Australian prime minister, who maintains close ties with the leadership in Beijing. “You don’t have to travel far in Beijing to hear words of derision about Kim’s personality and leadership style. They universally refer to him as ‘Fatty Kim’, or, in more polite circles, ‘the Young Gentleman’ – but rarely as ‘the Leader’.”
--
Analysis North Korea's Kim dynasty: the making of a personality cult
On former leader Kim Jong-il’s birthday, Christopher Richardson examines the way
epic accounts of heroic feats formed a foundation for the totalitarian state
Read more .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/north-korea-kim-jong-il-birthday
--
Personalities aside, Beijing also understands that Pyongyang’s antics could work in its favour, by draining the US military of time and regional resources at a time when Washington is struggling to keep up with China’s rise in territorial assertiveness.
“If a North Korean nuclear capability puts pressure on the future of US alliances in Asia, then that’s a problem for the United States, it’s not a problem for China,” said Rudd, in a recent speech in Stockholm. “There is also I believe an even deeper view within the Chinese military that a North Korean nuclear capability is a nine-out-of-10 problem for America, and a one-out-of-10 problem for China.”
Richard McGregor is a Washington-based author and journalist. His book Asia’s Reckoning: The Struggle for Global Dominance is published by Allen Lane
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/09/north-korea-china-xi-jinping
See also:
How does the world deal with a new nuclear power?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134492571
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