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Re: Magmar post# 2518

Thursday, 08/31/2017 11:48:30 AM

Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:48:30 AM

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Does anyone know what these other patents are?

copied from ALLM website;

http://www.alliancebioe.com/technology/ip/

..."Under a master license agreement with the University of Central Florida, Alliance subsidiary AMG Energy Group enjoys the exclusive rights to North America (including Canada, U.S. and Mexico) and Africa to four (4) issued patents and fourteen (14) filed and pending patents to the revolutionary CTS Cellulose Conversion process. The rest of the world, except for Southeast Asia, is a joint venture between AMG and Thor Renewable Energy Singapore, under Carbolosic, LLC."

The patent ALLM does reference continuously is US patent# 8062428 B2, which is what I critiqued below (and link provided on investorhub board as well).

I tried searching UCF and Dr. Blair to see if I could find anything on these other 4 patents mentioned by ALLM and did find that the original patent above was updated 2 years later;

http://www.google.com/patents/US8871739

This patent is far more comprehensive in the claims section than the original 8062428.b2 (which ALLM cites exclusively), whereby they specifically state what sugars are produced in each biomass processed batch, which I believe would strengthen any legal case from a patent stand point. The more specific, the stronger the patent.

I sure hope the un-named 4 patents include this newer patent above or the master license agreement they entered into with UCF has been amended to include the newer, #8871739 by Dr. Blair, otherwise... good luck defending it. Why hasn't ALLM updated their website referencing this newer patent that is much more solid than the original?

FYI, CSL...if you take the time to read these patents, you find that the lab tests are controlled, therefore the results predictable, once you know what each biomass produces on the back end. That's why Dr. Blair and UCF filed a new patent, 8871739, that covers these compositions from each biomass they tested. What does that mean? It means, if you process 100% switch grass or 100% corn stover, you should expect 100% consistent end product of sugar content (or whatever the composition is from them). Patent 8871739 recognizes a blend of biomasses as well, but is controlled (say 50% hay, 50% corn stover)to give them a measurable result. This technology may be more practical as a bolt on because it would be 100% corn fibers as in the Harvesting technology pilot project they claimed happened or the pistachio hulls from the soon-to-be built plant in Bakersfield, CA.

The reason I bring this up is because I am willing to bet that the county yard waste they will be getting is never the same mix proportionally....ever. How different is the sugar or lignin product from each batch if the ratio of tree branches to palm fronds to grasses is different each time they receive it from the county? Each batch will have a different outcome based on this making it very hard to determine how the sugar solutions will be best utilized. There is so much more I can say, but I am not an engineer, so apparently, not credible in the eyes of some.

Maybe I should ask the USDA or Vero Beach county commissioners.
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