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Re: Molten Salt post# 26425

Wednesday, 08/09/2017 2:48:25 PM

Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:48:25 PM

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Poor, poor Harry Schoell. His key customer can't get their Cyclone engine to produce the advertised power, and it has to be someone else's fault.

The contract with 3R is on file with the SEC. Cyclone contracted to deliver "Cyclone’s heat regenerative, Schoell-cycle external combustion engine system (the “Cyclone Engine”)."

"Heat regenerative" means there are heat exchangers. You can look it up in the Cyclone patents.

"engine system" for a steam engine includes the boiler, i.e., a heat exchanger.

Sure, Cyclone didn't build the heat exchanger (sounds like they don't, or more likely can't, build anything anymore) but there's no question Harry Schoell designed it.

The link you posted is dead. If, however, you meant the presentation document at http://ecosmart.co.za.www460.jnb1.host-h.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/IBES-Presentation.pdf, it clearly shows the heat exchanger on page 6: "Cyclone steam engine". The description says "Closed loop system. No need to refill water", which means the heat exchanger, which is part of that closed loop, is included.

And then the photo of the heat exchanger:

Notice the purple thing above the hand. That's the Cyclone engine. The round silver thing to the left is an aluminum casting for the Cyclone engine block. Notice the box just to the upper right says "PHOE". Does that logo look like this:


That's the logo on the Phoenix Power page for the Phoenix-40 generator using the Cyclone Mark 5 engine. (Testing is scheduled to start in early 2013. Whoo-hoo!)

Then the plastic bag on the left in the photo is a McMaster-Carr bag, and they are a U.S. industrial supplier. If that heat exchanger is not sitting on a bench at Cyclone somebody went to a lot of trouble to make it look that way.

Now what you may be trying to claim is that the "REFO biomass boiler" on page 4 designed by 3R is the heat exchanger that doesn't work right. Nope, but nice try. This term "boiler" means hot water boiler used to heat water for radiators and hydronic heating in houses. I.e., what they have "Proven reliability (25 years in the market)" from. They certainly haven't been selling 1000 psi 1000 degree F steam boilers for home heating for 25 years.

So not only is the failure of the heat exchanger to work properly on Harry, but we now see Cyclone's customer is going to China rather than Cyclone to solve the problem.

Either way, whether Harry Schoell designed it and it didn't work anywhere near acceptably, or whether Harry sold a customer an engine requiring 1000 psi 1000 F steam but didn't help them with the necessary heat exchanger, Cyclone's support for their customers doesn't look too good.

On the other hand, when you look at what happened with Revgine, Great Wall, Bent Glass, Phoenix Power, Combilift etc., etc., Cyclone hasn't done well by any of their customers.

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