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http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amda/short-interest
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Unknown # of shares of NAKED SHORTING.
Been watching closely Level 2 data & trading events for weeks...I can sum up that red candles we were seeing mostly in the morning are the naked shorting from "ahem coungh cough".
I would not set stoplosses due to this, NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD LET THESE GUYS TO TRICK & STEAL MY SHARES:
The DNDN Example --> Do NOT use STOP LOSSES -> This CANNOT be Stressed Enough !!!!!!!!!
I am not trying to be an ALARMIST......
I am trying to make sure that the people here ...the folks that have invested tons of time, mental energy, and money in DCTH over the years.....are EDUCATED to the manipulative ways and actions of SHORT SELLERS
The problem with stop-loss orders, particularly in a stock that doesn’t have much of a float to borrow like DCTH is that the movements of the stock .... especially the downward ones... come suddenly and are exacerbated by Stop-Loss orders
Stop-Loss orders look great on paper or on a college finance chalk board.... but in actuality.... Stop-Loss orders in volitile stocks like DCTH are the fodder that SHORT sellers and market makers feed on.
In reality....Stop-Loss orders show the Market Makers and professional SHORTS the exact price that they have to drop the stock to (how much dollar pressure they need to apply) ...... in order to steal your shares ..... and ahead of time.
Would you bet real money in a poker game..... If the other players at the poker table knew EXACTLY what your poker hand looked like.... because you freely flooped your cards on the table and showed the other players your hand .....before the first round of betting was even made ?
By using stop losses..... this is exactly what folks are doing --------> You are telling the market makers & SHORTS exactly what price you are willing to sell stock .... thus freely giving away your hand.
The shorts use "Stop Loss Visibility" to harvest shares and thereby you can lose your DCTH shares before you can blink....... and at prices you never thought possible
Stop Loss orders once they are triggered become ----> Active Market Sell Orders.
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LEARN THE LESSON of What HAPPENED to ---> DNDN Shareholders that used Stop-Loss Orders ----> BEFORE they issued their PHASE 3 Data
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On April 28, 2009 at 1:27pm the Securities Exchange Commission Halted DNDN's stock from trading .....
Just minutes prior, the stock had plunged suddenly from a price of --- $24.60 a share to under $8 a share --> in Less Than 1 Minute !!!!!!!!
There were over 4,000 trades placed during the blink of an eye totaling about 3 million shares (about 50% of the average daily volume). This all took place on the same afternoon that DNDN was scheduled to release Phase 3 trial data of their prostate cancer drug, Provenge.
There are numerous articles that explain how people who had used "$20 Stop Loss Orders" on DNDN actually had their shares sold by market makers at prices as low as $7.90 a share...... That's more than a -$12.00 a share Screw Up !!!
Now, if you go back and reference the volume in DNDN leading up to this cataclsmic decline. Sellers entered the market just enough to begin driving down the price a little bit .... And a little bit of selling is all it took. Over the 3 minutes leading up to the ollpase..... it can be guesstimated that several hundred thousand shares worth of stop losses were triggered at $20 - and then massive sell volume relative to the bids that were in place...... and then more Stop Losses were triggered.... and then it Snow Balled......
LINK: Article--> DNDN Investors Learn a Hard Lesson in Stop-Loss Orders
http://seekingalpha.com/article/134278-dendreon-investors-learn-a-hard-lesson-in-stop-loss-orders
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MORAL of the DNDN Story
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When a large number of people who own a stock like DNDN or DCTH and have stop-losses in the same place (nrmally at Round Dollar Figures like: $10, $12, $15, $20 etc..) or people use software algorithyms like "A Day Low Price" or "A Tick below Yesterday's Close"..... these tpes of "Genius" trading maneuvers are ripe to trigger massive numbers of --> Stop Loss Orders -----> and Professional SHORTS and their computer programs FEED on these Stop Loss Order Formations----> Because they can see everyone's Poker Hands.
The Bottom Line ----> STOP LOSS OREDRS are Doomsday Material ..... especially when everyone on Earth has the same idea !!!!!
Automated algorithym trading programs control more than 50% of the daily stock trading in the United States, and many of these programs are wired right into the Nasdaq trading --> ORDER BOOK
Don't give the SHORTS any incentive or fuel to drop the price of DCTH, if only for an instant -----> By Using ----> STOP LOSS ORDERS !
The purpose of the stop-loss is to .......LIMIT LOSSES...........
If an investor wants a stop loss, I would suggest using a --- STOP LIMIT ORDER ------
STOP LIMIT ORDER --- allows that “If the stock falls below ($x Price) .....You want to sell the stock .... but at a minimum price of ($x & $y)”
The STOP LIMIT ORDER then prevents the market makers/ SHORTS from forcing you to sell your stock ......at what could be some absolutley absurd discount with absolutely no explanation !!!!
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Re: The DNDN Example --> Do NOT use STOP LOSSES -> This CANNOT be Stressed Enough !!!!!!!!!
an interesting analysis which definately scared the shit out of me, except for one glaring detail...
"There were over 4,000 trades placed during the blink of an eye totaling about 3 million shares (about 50% of the average daily volume). This all took place on the same afternoon that DNDN was scheduled to release Phase 3 trial data of their prostate cancer drug, Provenge."
Presumably the idea for the MMs and the shorts was to crush the price before the data release and sell again when it came back after the data came out, to make money both ways (going down and going back up). The thing is, (and I don't know if I'm just reading too much into this) - according to tarpon, they KNEW when the data was coming out. That is NOT the case for DCTH - in fact, its the opposite - we've been sitting here every day pondering that exact question.
If that detail was not pertinent to this story, they could have done this at any time, not just when the data came out, and the time of release would have nothing to do with anything. If the detail is pertinent to the story, it doesn't impact us, because no one knows when the data is coming out (as long as they don't telegraph it before hand, but I don't think they will).
Mabye a leak in the release date would set this off, but I don't know. Whoever reads this board might consider to set up stop limits instead of stop losses for defensive purposes, but I don't really know how much of an impact our doing so would be.
Also:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57101068
Thus the reported total volume/shorted volume on FIRNA is also rigged.
http://shortvolume.com/
http://nakedshortreport.com/?index=AMDA
http://regsho.finra.org/regsho-Index.html
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