Funny thing about IBM they were referencing Mikros' patent in 2001 2003 2004 2006 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=41&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=mikros&OS=mikros&RS=mikros If the patent will open for you then click the reference button to see who reference it and how many times. could be a link?????? what do you think bobchar