Wednesday, February 01, 2017 9:22:45 PM
A leaked Trump order suggests he’s planning to deport more legal immigrants for using social services
Build a wall around public benefits, and make immigrants’ relatives pay for it.
Updated by Dara Linddara@vox.com Jan 31, 2017, 3:40pm EST
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Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
President Donald Trump upended American immigration policy with three executive orders in his first week as president. He may not be done yet.
The Washington Post obtained two draft executive orders the Trump administration is reportedly considering, both of which (in title and content) resemble documents Vox wrote about and published last week.
One order deals with work visas; the other addresses social services for legal immigrants who are already in the United States. It’s an indication that the many immigration restrictions Trump has signed are not the full scope of what key advisers have discussed. The draft dealing with legal immigrants’ use of social services could have further-reaching implications for legal immigrants currently in the US than anything the president has already signed.
Related
Read leaked drafts of 4 White House executive orders on Muslim ban, end to DREAMer program, and more
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14390106/leaked-drafts-trump-immigrants-executive-order
Legal immigrants currently get access to some public benefits in some circumstances. But the federal government — already, under existing law — can bar someone from coming to the US, or from becoming a permanent resident, if there’s any evidence he or she will become a “public charge.”
Currently, the federal government looks at use of cash benefits (like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) when it’s making “public charge” decisions, but not in-kind benefits like Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program.
This executive action, though — according to the draft obtained by Vox .. https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7872571/Protecting_Taxpayer_Resources_by_Ensuring_Our_Immigration_Laws_Promote_Accountability_and_Responsibility.0.pdf , which seems consistent with the Post’s reporting — would ask the Department of Homeland Security to issue a rule saying that an immigrant can’t be admitted to the US if he’s likely to get any benefit “determined in any way on the basis of income, resources, or financial need.”
People who use any of those benefits and are in the US on visas would be subject to deportation. And the order would even require the person who sponsored an immigrant into the US to reimburse the federal government for any benefits the immigrant used (something that the government can theoretically ask for in individual cases now, but rarely does).
This is draconian.... more with more links .. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/31/14457678/trump-order-immigrants-welfare
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Trump says Obama banned refugees too. He’s wrong.
Updated by Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Jan 31, 2017, 11:10am EST
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This is wrong in every particular. Obama’s Iraqi visa policy in 2011 did not ban Iraqis from entering the country. Obama’s immigration policy did not treat people with passports from the seven countries as unusually dangerous terrorism threats. And Obama’s policies never approached anything like the breadth, cynicism, and incompetence of Trump’s executive order.
But the way in which the “Obama did it first” defense has been taken up by conservatives is extremely telling. By making this issue about the liberal media smearing Trump, they are normalizing him — making this a standard left-right fight rather than something extraordinary. By providing Trump cover, these conservatives — some of whom once identified as NeverTrumpers — are aiding and abetting Trump’s assault on America’s historic status as a welcoming safe harbor for immigrants and refugees.
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/31/14444862/obama-refugee-ban-2011
.. and so lowering the level of admiration and hope millions of ordinary citizens worldwide had felt for the
United States of America .. that's inarguable, i believe .. while providing satisfaction to people as ISIS ..
Build a wall around public benefits, and make immigrants’ relatives pay for it.
Updated by Dara Linddara@vox.com Jan 31, 2017, 3:40pm EST
/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53013565/633193736.0.jpg)
Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
President Donald Trump upended American immigration policy with three executive orders in his first week as president. He may not be done yet.
The Washington Post obtained two draft executive orders the Trump administration is reportedly considering, both of which (in title and content) resemble documents Vox wrote about and published last week.
One order deals with work visas; the other addresses social services for legal immigrants who are already in the United States. It’s an indication that the many immigration restrictions Trump has signed are not the full scope of what key advisers have discussed. The draft dealing with legal immigrants’ use of social services could have further-reaching implications for legal immigrants currently in the US than anything the president has already signed.
Related
Read leaked drafts of 4 White House executive orders on Muslim ban, end to DREAMer program, and more
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14390106/leaked-drafts-trump-immigrants-executive-order
Legal immigrants currently get access to some public benefits in some circumstances. But the federal government — already, under existing law — can bar someone from coming to the US, or from becoming a permanent resident, if there’s any evidence he or she will become a “public charge.”
Currently, the federal government looks at use of cash benefits (like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) when it’s making “public charge” decisions, but not in-kind benefits like Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program.
This executive action, though — according to the draft obtained by Vox .. https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7872571/Protecting_Taxpayer_Resources_by_Ensuring_Our_Immigration_Laws_Promote_Accountability_and_Responsibility.0.pdf , which seems consistent with the Post’s reporting — would ask the Department of Homeland Security to issue a rule saying that an immigrant can’t be admitted to the US if he’s likely to get any benefit “determined in any way on the basis of income, resources, or financial need.”
People who use any of those benefits and are in the US on visas would be subject to deportation. And the order would even require the person who sponsored an immigrant into the US to reimburse the federal government for any benefits the immigrant used (something that the government can theoretically ask for in individual cases now, but rarely does).
This is draconian.... more with more links .. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/31/14457678/trump-order-immigrants-welfare
==
Trump says Obama banned refugees too. He’s wrong.
Updated by Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Jan 31, 2017, 11:10am EST
[...]
This is wrong in every particular. Obama’s Iraqi visa policy in 2011 did not ban Iraqis from entering the country. Obama’s immigration policy did not treat people with passports from the seven countries as unusually dangerous terrorism threats. And Obama’s policies never approached anything like the breadth, cynicism, and incompetence of Trump’s executive order.
But the way in which the “Obama did it first” defense has been taken up by conservatives is extremely telling. By making this issue about the liberal media smearing Trump, they are normalizing him — making this a standard left-right fight rather than something extraordinary. By providing Trump cover, these conservatives — some of whom once identified as NeverTrumpers — are aiding and abetting Trump’s assault on America’s historic status as a welcoming safe harbor for immigrants and refugees.
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/31/14444862/obama-refugee-ban-2011
.. and so lowering the level of admiration and hope millions of ordinary citizens worldwide had felt for the
United States of America .. that's inarguable, i believe .. while providing satisfaction to people as ISIS ..
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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