+1 Jay Arr, Holy crap, "from time to time" lmao, seems like every decent discussion gets squashed with Jim'isms and what happened back in the day, and he promised this and that, its like living with a nagging wife, after a while we all get numb. It just makes many of the folks not want to post because they know where the discussion will end up ... who's on first, what's on second, ... jmo