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Saturday, 12/10/2016 9:38:44 PM

Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:38:44 PM

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The Stovepipe

"Messy affairs"

How conflicts between the Bush Administration and the intelligence community marred the reporting on Iraq’s weapons.

By Seymour M. Hersh

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/27/the-stovepipe

.. highly recommended as could be very relevant to a future under Trump's administration .. why? .. well since he tweets willy-silly anything that
suits his way of thinking, and doesn't bother properly vetting the 'intelligence' he sees if it fits his state of mind, it's obvious he isn't into any
real appreciation of truthfulness .. it's worth keeping an eye on what he does with his intelligence communities. (see Dark Forces below)

The Stovepipe is mentioned just under halfway down in this posted by F6 in 2004.

COUP D'ETAT: The Real Reason Tenet and Pavitt Resigned from the
CIA on June 3rd and 4th

[...]
Seymour Hersh dropped a major bombshell that went virtually unnoticed, 54
paragraphs deep into an October 27, 2003 story for the New Yorker titled "The Stovepipe."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=3310000

So what happened when Bremer stuffed things up in Iraq? This one of Stephanie...'s let's us in on that picture.

Neo Culpa
As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war's neoconservative boosters have turned sharply on the Bush administration, charging that
their grand designs have been undermined by White House incompetence. In a series of exclusive interviews, Richard Perle,
Kenneth Adelman, David Frum, and others play the blame game with shocking frankness. Target No. 1: the president himself.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=14525547

What does Trump do when he stuffs things up? .. either blames someone else .. or just ignores it.

Another One here on Chalabi for any who don't know the guy.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=27480051

John Bolton figures prominently in Seymour Hersh's The Stovepipe above ... what's he doing now .. oh yeah at Fox and probably dangerously still
salivating about invading Iran .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119892850 .. thanks BOREALIS.

Bolton gets a mention here, too

You're Hired! A Master List Of Rumored Top Trump Appointees
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And of Trump's CIA?

Dark Forces Winning The Game – OpEd
[...]
brahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, expressed dismay about Session’s nomination. It only adds “to a growing list” of nominees “with troubling pasts, and troubling histories of bigotry and intolerance,” Hooper said.

Trump’s pick to lead the CIA is Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-Kan.), a Kansas congressman who is also seen as a fierce partisan on polarizing issues including the deaths of U.S. personnel in Benghazi, saying that the Obama administration was guilty of a scandal “worse than Watergate.” He has called for Snowden to face the death penalty and for Clinton to be barred from receiving classified information. He has used his perch on the House Intelligence Committee to attack major pillars of President Obama’s foreign policy agenda, including the nuclear deal with Iran. Just hours before his name surfaced as Trump’s CIA nominee, Pompeo tweeted that he looked forward to “rolling back this disastrous deal with the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism.”

Separately, Pompeo said that Muslim leaders who fail to denounce acts of terrorism done in the name of Islam were “potentially complicit” in the attacks.

Trump has called for the CIA to resume the use of waterboarding and other interrogation measures widely condemned as torture. Trump has derided the quality of the intelligence from the nation’s spy community, publicly belittling a multiagency conclusion that Russia used cyberespionage methods to interfere in the U.S. election.

Pompeo is not known to have publicly backed those positions and in some cases has articulated views that would seem at odds with those of the Trump team. Pompeo reportedly has close ties to the Koch family, Kansas billionaires who have devoted a considerable part of their wealth to advancing a deeply conservative agenda and driving Democrats out of office. Articles in Kansas papers indicate that Pompeo built much of his wealth with investment funds from Koch industries and that his campaigns for Congress have been backed by Koch money.

With such picks in his new administration, Trump is sending a loud message, which is highly disconcerting
to many Americans who don’t want to see their country turn into a fascist country ruled by Herr Trump.

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On revisiting those days when America was great - cough- again i found myself understanding hookrider's ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126696912 .. position on Republicans

One beginning .. FBI covered up Russian influence on Trump's election win, Harry Reid claims
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