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Friday, 12/09/2016 8:20:16 AM

Friday, December 09, 2016 8:20:16 AM

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Hey i get it....you should know as well as anyone that im NOT against helping / warning against / trying to steer people clear of anything OUTSIDE the Gospel of Jesus Christ...but only to a point because i believe the "Good News"...is NOT doom and gloom...the Gospel of Jesus Christ is to be taught and preached from the infallible word of God "to see lost souls saved" and that should be our focus! But in and of all that...people are still going to do what they are going to do...so in reality....how much good does it actually do to warn anyone about anything concerning earthly / human sin filled lifestyles and the goings on in those lifestyles?

So...lets go down another road to make a point. Every single human in the USA from the time they are 3...4..whatever years old...are taught...preached to...warned...to obey the human laws of the land. As they get older they hear it and see it everyday...if you break the law your are going to get arrested and pay a fine and /or put in jail...and guess what..statics tell us that 70% of us have done something that could have put us in jail! The jails and prisons are running over because even though those people have been warned sense birth...they still do what they are going to do. We are warned and told all our lives and we still break human laws...hey...i know if i speed in my truck and get caught im going to get a costly fine...even though ive seen it and heard it 100,000 times...guess what...i still speed...lol...and that list could go on and on in "little" laws we break and chances we take outside the law...yes...us the law abiding citizens that we are...or are not? The majority of the 318 million people here in the USA...lets say...250 million are teenage age and older...now...we know what is right and wrong and they know the human laws of the land and yet most likely everyone of that 250 million people break the law many many times in some little way..or big way... every year...or a few times a month even...so why do we think that warning people about spiritual things...that they dont want to hear in the 1st place is gonna be any different? i incorporate warnings into the messages i speak at the jails and re-hab facilities all the time...but as i said earlier...without a intervention of Jesus into their life its probably falling on deaf ears....Often times i believe when we keep on and on about all the negativity...no matter how much reality there is in it...can drive people away...there is enough worldly stuff to send people over the edge without telling people endlessly how screwed up the "so called christians" are?

And when you say....

I'd rather take the time to earn how evil operates, their tactics, so I keep myself, family, or others from being sucked in.

Hey i get that...only a fool isnt watching watch over ourselves and our family and knowing how the wicked world operates...however...outside the discernment of the Holy Spirit living in us...i mean truly living in us....we dont stand a chance in the realm of spiritual matters...because....
.....For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Ephesians 6:12

Just because ones were sucked into the Joel churches of the world does not negate all the ones who decided not to go there.
You don't read about those people.



My thought would be that the reason most of those people got sucked in is because they didnt have a relationship with Jesus...and the ones that maybe did it all refers back to the scripture i posted earlier...For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Timothy 4:3

As ive posted here before....
Billy Graham has said that of the "MILLION's" of decisions made at his crusades, perhaps only a fourth result in people being "born again"...actually receiving Jesus into their life! Dr. Rod Bell, president of the Fundamentalist Baptist Fellowship of America, believes 50 plus percent of people that go to church are lost. Bill Bright the founder of Campus Crusade for Christ said....“many who call themselves Christians are not really biblical Christians at all. Although they may be religious people who attend church regularly, they have never experienced the new birth and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ". At the Southern Baptist Convention its estimated that in the United States 75% of the 318 million people are unsaved...lost...headed to hell!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126587128&txt2find=convention

Thats a good deal of the reason that people get sucked in...they are not born-again in the 1st place. And another reason is as i said before..."predestination"..."election"...those that serve God will serve God...those that serve satan...will serve satan.

My continued point is we need to let the world see the love of Jesus shining from us consistently...because when they dont... what they see and think of... is Things like the crazies at Westboro Baptist church...which of course is NOT a church.....and thru that love unto others we plant seeds that they might be born-again that day or somewhere down the road....as i said before....my mission is to see lost souls saved so i can hang out with them in heaven some day!...im pretty sure the "Great Commission" is to see lost souls saved...not...change the world...that is sovereign Gods job!

i just believe if God wanted evil and wickedness to disappear...He would have vaporized satan and the other fallen angels / demons back the day of the rebellion...however He didnt...or God would have done away with satan in the garden where it all started or any time in the last 8000 years of planet earth...but God didnt and dont... because sin and evil and wickedness is playing a role in Gods perfect plan and purpose......

“Why Doesn't God Obliterate Evil?”

Have you ever wondered why God doesn’t obliterate the devil and eradicate all sin? If God destroyed evil, God would destroy every opportunity for choice. And if God were to destroy every opportunity for choice, then God would destroy every opportunity for love. Therefore, God would destroy the highest good. For God to destroy evil would be evil. God doesn’t destroy evil, instead God defeats evil. How? Calvary and the resurrection! God turns every hurt into a hallelujah. Every defeat into victory! Spend some time today thinking about heaven and the glorious reunion you’re going to have with Him one day.

-Adrian Rogers-

“Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine.”
1 Chronicles 29:11

Look man...i hate all the wickedness and evil in the world...i know what it is doing to humanity....but just as i THINK ALL of us know...its NOT going to get any better...heres some negativity for you...do we not believe that before the Rapture happens that here in the USA we are going to be suffering and persecuted just like in places around the world....the churches boarded up...no carrying the Bible down the street...jailed...beat or killed if caught worshiping....is that not where the USA along with the world is headed...and then...in the Tribulation all hell on earth breaks loose. Isnt that what the word of God tells us that we are headed? im sorry but i dont believe we are going to have that much of an impact on changing people and causing them to do anything different than they are going to do outside of seeing lost souls saved...why...ok...im 60 years old....i remember what a awesome place the USA was just 50 years ago...look at it now....with all the warnings...look at where we are now and where we are headed in the next 10...20...30...years. Whats going to change people...the USA...the world...me...the media...warnings....NO...one thing....
.....if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14

And lastly...when we talk about the churches that are falling to satan....im not sure why that also surprises us...its all part of that new world order led by satan....i read the other day...only 4% of the worlds population is Evangelicals...the world is full of sin and wickedness and it is taking over as God allows satan to run rampant to fulfill Bible prophecy. Hey...look at the Roman Catholic Church thats been around forever...the largest so called "christian" church....look at their beliefs...are they headed to heaven? And we wonder why there is so much wickedness and evil in the world!?

OK..ive beat this dead horse to death....im done...y'all have a awesome day!




I Have No Regrets About My Past...My Past Is Who I Am Today...Born Again!
Rick j Sane

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