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Monday, 10/24/2016 7:50:41 PM

Monday, October 24, 2016 7:50:41 PM

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Yep, that really sucks. He still 'loves shooting new guns. It's so much fun', he has recently posted.

Speaking of guns there has been a fun and games leader and ex conflict between Turnbull and Abbott (the leader the more moderate Liberal (our conservatives,
you know) Turnbull bumped Sept. 14 2015) over an alleged deal made by the Abbott government with a 'balance of power' crossbench senator re the import
of a 7-shot lever action shotgun. Any such deal would would weaken the Howard Australia gun laws which gun loving Australians will never stop doing.

A 'game-changer' gun changes Turnbull-Abbott game

Opinion The Conversation

By Michelle Grattan, University of Canberra.

Updated Fri at 8:14pm


Photo: Tony Abbott denied involvement in any deal
with Senator Leyonhjelm. (ABC News: Nick Haggarty)

Political pundits often talk about the "transactional costs" of coups. On Thursday, the cost of having around a deeply unhappy and still angry ousted leader suddenly became alarmingly high for the Government.

When Malcolm Turnbull told Parliament that the prime ministerial office of Tony Abbott knew of the 2015 deal with Senate crossbencher David Leyonhjelm to attach a sunset clause to the import ban on a particular Adler shotgun, it turned the already bitter relationship between the current and former leaders into a potential crisis.

Abbott had denied any deal by him or his office. Now — in Parliament — he was in effect being called a liar by the man who supplanted him. It doesn't come much more serious than that.

The Adler seven-shot lever-action shotgun, advertised as "a game changer for the Australian market", had changed the game in their mutual hostilities.

To say Turnbull has had yet another bad week doesn't tell half of it. It's been little short of disastrous and there will be more fallout.

[...]


Photo: Malcolm Turnbull said he was confident Mr Abbott was aware
of the gun policy deal while in office. (ABC News: Luke Stephenson)

Turnbull knew he and the ministers faced imminent cross-examination from Labor in the House. They couldn't lie to Parliament — a hanging offence — and, anyway, the paper trail would eventually come out.

In Question Time Dutton and Keenan both indicated the Abbott office had been in the loop. Turnbull then delivered the coup de grace. He had made inquiries, he said, and "I'm satisfied that the Minister for Justice acted in the full knowledge of the Prime Minister's Office at that time".

[...]


Crossbench senator David Leyonhjelm says Australia's tough gun control laws
are not based on data, and that guns can be "a lot of fun" when used safely.

Chuckle, love it, and more .. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-21/a-game-changer-gun-changes-turnbull-abbott-game/7953938




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