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Re: ChuckFinley305 post# 26048

Wednesday, 10/19/2016 11:42:27 AM

Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:42:27 AM

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I think you nailed it Chuck.

Like last year when they tried that crowd funding appeal to raise $125K for "safety equipment" for the land speed car. That money wasn't for safety equipment, it was to fund more tinkering on the Mark 5.

Another thing that supports your insight is that all these engines use the same basic configuration: six radial cylinders exhausting into the crankcase and trying to use water as a lubricant.

Instead of using a master connecting rod, like every successful radial engine ever made, all the Cyclone engines use a "spider bearing", invented by Harry Schoell and used by no one else. This thing flops around and beats the connecting rods to pieces.

When they hired Ohio State University to fix the WHE they put out a PR announcing progress:

The WHE-DR boasts several important advancements over the previous engine model, meant to decrease manufacturing costs and increase operational durability without loss of performance. For instance, the new engine replaces six cylinders with three slightly larger bore cylinders, and utilizes more robust and less complicated admittance and exhaust valving systems, and simplified rod bearing connections. Overall, the WHE-DR has approximately 60% fewer parts than the earlier version. Initial testing has demonstrated significantly smoother and quieter operation, which is expected to result in the successful completion of durability tests over the next two months.



Ohio State threw away the spider bearing. Not only did that make the engine smoother and quieter, but last longer as well. Harry's response at the time:

“We are very proud of our improved engine. This is a technological and business milestone that must not be understated, as we are fast approaching our transition into phase one manufacturing with our team that we have been preparing in Ohio. For small-scale waste-to-power applications, we believe this product has enormous market potential,” stated Harry Schoell, Chairman and CTO of Cyclone.



So what happened to "our improved engine" with three cylinders and no spider bearing? Harry went right back to his proven bad design.

The original Cyclone patent shows the Mark 5 engine design right down to the last nut and bolt. The patent was issued years before Harry actually tried to build and run the Mark 5. He has spent all the investors' money not trying to make a working steam engine, but in making his "ingenious" engine concept work.

Another example supporting your conclusion is the new Mark 1 design. A customer wanted a 5 hp engine. Every 5 hp engine in the world uses one cylinder. The Cyclone 5 hp engine is trying to use six. And, still uses that failure of the "spider bearing". Six cylinders cost a lot more to manufacture, assemble and repair, and a lot more parts that will lead to breakdowns.

I think Tom said every engine manufacturer in the world uses single cylinder test engines to get a new engine design right before they make multicylinder engines. Harry, with not a single working engine after all these years and all those millions lost, is still set on getting this six cylinder radial configuration working even where it makes no sense to do so, like a 5 hp engine.

But, Harry is determined to prove his engine is "ingenious" no matter how much investors' money he has to flush down the toilet.

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