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What is John Kerry Doing in Kenya? - Ron Paul Daniel McAdams (VIDEO)

http://www.ronpaul.com/2016-08-25/what-is-john-kerry-doing-in-kenya/

ecretary of State John Kerry was in Africa recently, promising US aid to help get “clean” elections, spreading foreign aid to help fight Boko Haram (which got a big boost from the Libya intervention), and pushing for UN troops in South Sudan (a disastrous country midwifed by US intervention a few years ago).

[Note: Nairobi, where the meeting took place, is the capital of Kenya, not Nigeria. This has been corrected in the transcript..]

Ron Paul: Hello everybody, and thank you for tuning in to The Liberty Report. With me today is Daniel McAdams, the co-host. Daniel, it’s good to see you today.

Daniel McAdams: Good morning, Dr. Paul, I’ve got an interesting announcement, our subscriber base is growing, and we’re knocking on the door of 50,000 subscribers to The Liberty Report’s YouTube Channel, www.YouTube.com/RonPaulLibertyReport. I was going to ask our readers to please share our show and see if you can push us over 50,000 subscribers here pretty soon, we would certainly be grateful for it.

Ron Paul: Well, this is great. I really enjoy doing the program, but we need to produce a product which is popular, and if the people will come, then we can continue to do this. So far, we’ve been encouraged, because we’ve been doing this from our studio here in Clute, Texas, in Lake Jackson for just a little over a year, so I would say we’re doing pretty well. We think this is very important information, but, like I said, I enjoy doing the program, because we get a lot of good comments. Sometimes they’re challenging, but it’s always helpful to read the comments. Today I want to talk about another issue that’s very important, it’s an area of the world that we haven’t talked about too much at all, and that’s Africa. There are some people who say, “We better keep an eye on Africa, because it’s sort of smoldering along, we have an African Command now that’s part of our empire, and we’re very active in there.

What called my attention to it was John Kerry, I think he’s like the secretary of state or something like that, and he decided to go to Nigeria Kenya. He got permission from the President to do this and go to Nairobi, and there he met with the President, and he also met with the foreign ministers of Somalia, South Sudan, and Sudan. One thing I found out as that meeting went along was that they were all asking for money, can you imagine. There’s a lot going on in Nigeria Kenya, but the first announcement in the news was that Kerry promised 138 million dollars to go to South Sudan. What’s going on here? I thought we took care of that problem a couple of years ago, they were fighting, so we created a new country. But it’s not quite so simple, things aren’t going as smoothly as they had hoped, and now they seem to be paying more attention because they (those individuals that run our country) have participated in 13,500 UN troops to keep the peace in South Sudan, and they want to increase it.

Evidently, things aren’t going smoothly there, and there was a bit of threatening on here, Kerry was threatening South Sudan: “You better behave, you better follow the rules, you’ve signed this treaty and you’re messing up down there”, so he was very emphatic. He was threatening, he said, “You’re going to get punished, we’re going to put sanctions on where you won’t even be allowed to buy weapons any more”, and other sanctions. Always behind those threats is the subtle threat of military force, which we’re not bashful about.

Daniel McAdams: Yes, and as you say, people haven’t noticed it as much, but South Sudan is yet another U.S. intervention like Libya that has not produced anything good, it has only produced chaos. The U.S., UK, and Israel were destabilizing Sudan for a number of years. Remember back in the 2000s there were all of these campaigns about oppression and how we’ve got to split up the country because there are horrible Arabs in the north and poor Africans in the south, so they had to be split up. What was really behind a lot of this was the fact that there was a bunch of oil in the south, and the Chinese had no pipeline. Matter of fact, we have a map that maybe we can put up, and this explains a lot of the geo-politics around what happened.

The oil is all in the south, the Chinese built all the pipelines going up through the north, it was all one country at the time they did this. But the split hasn’t done anything, it hasn’t created a country in the south, it simply created chaos in the south, and the Chinese are out there buying oil anyways.

Ron Paul: You know, when they announced this acceleration of activity and more UN troops in there, Kerry wanted to reassure the naïve people out there when they asked what are they doing, are they expanding this war or what. And he said, “No, what we’re doing is we’re going in not as a peace keeping force”, that sounds like a pretty good pretext, but no, it’s going to change. It’s going to “protect the civilians and also protect the facilities”. You just pointed out a few of the facilities. The facilities in Iraq were very well protected on our base. I remember when Iraq was invaded, the oil facilities were protected, but some of the ancient museums and things that had been there for thousands of years that have withstood all the dictators and wars of the world, were confiscated and much of it was destroyed and stolen. But the oil wells survived.

Daniel McAdams: They can’t even do imperialism right, they go in there, they’re going to take all the oil, and they even mess that up. Interventionism doesn’t even give greedy people back home anything.

Ron Paul: Kerry assured them that the UN and the United States would not be a challenge to the sovereignty of South Sudan. Of course, we essentially created South Sudan, so we own them, so what we’re doing is protecting our ownership. But he has to say, “We will not challenge the sovereignty of South Sudan”.

Daniel McAdams: Well, we noticed Kerry was also in Nigeria Kenya, and he was spreading a lot of exceptionalism over there. He promised them how many million dollars in aid?

Ron Paul: Well, Nigeria Kenya was promised at least 25 million dollars.

Daniel McAdams: That’s all? Ha ha.

Ron Paul: No, it was just a little effort, but what they were going to do was very important. They want to secure the elections, and they want to make sure there are no shenanigans going on and keep honest elections. I’ve been involved in some of my elections, in which I really wondered what was going on behind the scenes. We’ve known about Chicago, we’ve known about the various states that have … we know about LBJ. Our elections are far from perfect, and yet, we’re spending this 25 million dollars. But elections over there in countries that we’re involved with, even if they gave 25 million dollars on the pretense, the real control of the elections is through the CIA. This whole thing that we’re promoting this democracy is so fallacious, because we don’t really have a democratic process, we don’t want pure democracy where the majority punishes the minority. But the democratic process is not there

There’s talk about where the third parties will be in the debates. They’re not going to get in the debates, because the Republicans and Democrats run the elections, there’s bipartisanship on it. But we’re going to have honest debates over there, we’re going to take more money from poor people over here and send it over there, and the CIA will run the show, and then it won’t work. We created this country of South Sudan, and the vice president is fighting with the president, that’s where the squabble is, so we’re going to go in and settle it. I don’t think much good will come from it. I think there was an interview made by a German newspaper or something, and they were doing a “man on the street interview”, and they quote one person. I thought this sort of tells you the story about our foreign policy and how the people on the street think about what we’re doing there.

Daniel McAdams: Is this in Nigeria or Kenya?

Ron Paul: This is still in Nigeria Kenya, he was interviewed there. He said, “To me, the coming of John Kerry is not something that Kenya should be happy about. Whenever Americans visit or try to be friendly with a country, it always ends up in a disaster”. He represents the democratic majority, but they’re not listening to him, they’re listening to those people who run the oil wells.

Daniel McAdams: Maybe they can send Debbie Wasserman Schultz down there to fix their elections for them.

Ron Paul: There you go.

Daniel McAdams: The other thing about Nigeria that we noticed when we were talking about the whole Africa thing, is that a lot of military aid is being considered for Nigeria because they’ve got to fight Boko Haram. This is an Al-Qaida – ISIS affiliated group that’s terribly dangerous, and we have got to commit. This is a new job for Africom, which was created just a year before Obama went into office, but of course, he’s expanded it significantly. So we’ve got to go fight Boko Haram, it’s very important. We’re even considering selling them attack aircraft, although a U.S. official in the paper that I read said, “We’ve been working with them to make sure they can afford it, thought”. What’s not reported, because unfortunately our press treats the news as if everything just happened yesterday. But the reason the Boko Haram has risen in strength and has expanded throughout Africa, is directly related to a previous intervention, and that was the U.S. attack on Libya.

After the U.S. attack on Libya, the weapons stores were wide open. They came and they grabbed all these things and then they went through Africa with all these weapons.

Ron Paul: Well, in the midst of a very energetic campaign where there are a lot of challenges back and forth, have we heard very much about it, has Hillary Clinton been put on the spot to explain. I think she was Secretary of State when some of this was going on and when the Libya affair was occurring and weapons left Libya. We’ve heard a lot, even WikiLeaks has indicated about the legitimacy of the challenge that weapons ended up in Syria. But also, probably more weapons went south into this region, but I haven’t heard that debate yet, it seems like they’ve sort of missed that. The media hasn’t asked her anything about that, so I don’t know.

Daniel McAdams: We already talked about how Hillary Clinton weaponised the State Department, which she did, and the State Department then weaponised the whole rest of the world. I think the whole story of the U.S. in Africa is about going over there, creating crisis, so that the U.S. has crisis to solve. It’s like an endless loop.

Ron Paul: Sometimes we’re pretty cynical here, and I think our audience can generally catch on to this, but isn’t this the responsibility of American foreign policy to spread our exceptionalism. This is what they really believe, this is what they preach, and a lot of people in Congress know exactly what’s going on: they’re militants, and they think we should be the tough guy and the policeman of the world and the military power of the world. We certainly don’t want the Soviets coming back, and we got to watch the Chinese coming back. But then there are the other ones who are maybe a little more soft hearted and think that we are wealthy and we have to take care of people and foreign aid is helpful to people. We should send it over there because it will help feed people and take care of people and teach them how to have elections. They really believe in this.

But I see the problem there is that the motivations don’t solve the problems, motivations are very misleading. The question is, who’s paying for this, at who’s cost? Let’s say they take 138 million dollars and they send it to South Sudan for a problem we created, the people who suffer from this are the innocent people who either naively supported, or the ones who don’t pay much attention. Even if they’re not huge tax payers, they do suffer because this money reflects a financial fiscal problem in this country that’s financed with the Federal Reserve. They create the inflation, the business cycle, and the ups and downs, and these are the people who suffer. Yet, they’ll just say, “Well, we have a lot, the government can afford it”.

But, inevitably, when they talk about the government, we should always challenge them and say, “Yes, the government will take care of this, the government should do this”. But who is the government, and who is the ultimate victim from these policies. It’s never the rich people in this country because if you’re very, very wealthy in the 1%, I’m sure they’re smart enough to park their money overseas. So that has nothing to do with this whole idea of “We’ll just tax the rich”, and you go about not only domestically spending money with a feel-good attitude, but you go around the world doing it, too. And the poor people never ask any questions, “Why is there more chaos in these countries, and why don’t they talk to these individuals like this citizens that just said, “Look, when America shows up, they’re not giving us any American exceptionalism, they’re giving us grief, and they’re creating chaos”.

Daniel McAdams: Yes, you can imagine, for every one of these guys, there are probably thousands and thousands that aren’t interviewed. But you said way back in the early 2000s, and you underscored what a rip off our foreign policy is for the American people. We pay to bomb the bridges in Afghanistan, etc, and then we go ahead and pay to rebuild them. But it’s even worse, because the money we pay to rebuild it never does rebuild it, it just goes into the pockets of contractors that mess things up.

Ron Paul: Of course, the amount of money that goes into the war profiteers pockets is an unbelievable crime, because it’s always: “If you don’t vote for those budgets, then you don’t care about the security of this country”. And yet, it’s that policy that is the greatest threat to our security by us pretending that we have the moral authority to police the world, threaten people, tell them how to run their elections, and we’ll do it for them if they don’t do what we say. And if there is disobedience, we threaten them with sanctions, and if that doesn’t work, there’s always the ultimate military threat. It hasn’t worked well, and yet, we haven’t yet awakened the American people to this. There are still way too many people who sort of ignore this, and figure, “Well, if I’m on the receiving end of some of this …”

When I say that, most people think, “Oh yes, as long as the poor people get their food stamps”. But I’m talking about the very wealthy who are in this business: the military-industrial complex, the banking industry, and all the shenanigans going on. They’re in our universities too, because with some of this money that goes overseas, they create studies and things and they coordinate and they’re required to coordinate some of these studies with our own universities. Sometimes this money doesn’t even leave the country, it goes from the treasury to the Pentagon to some military arms manufacturer. So it’s just a shifting of funds, but it’s the pretence that we’re making the world safe for democracy. Woodrow Wilson claimed that was our role, and it’s led to some very bad results.

Daniel McAdams: This money and the privileges that we, as the heads of empire, can bestow upon these countries, does very well for the very top elite in each of these countries. Cameroon, Nigeria, Kenya all do extremely well with this money. We just put up an article on the Institute’s site about an interview with Anders Fogh Rasmusen, who was a Danish politician who became Secretary General of NATO. I don’t remember the exact quote, but essentially it was this, “We need the United States to be the policeman of the world, we want you to keep doing this. If you don’t do it, who will?” The fact of the matter is, he has had very high personal success as a servant of that empire, as an elite in his own country, and I think that’s not spoken enough about.

Ron Paul: Yes, there’s always an angle to it, somebody is going to benefit from it, and I think exposing that is very important. Of course, there’s a mixing up of our foreign policy now like we’ve never seen it when you think about the multi millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars involved in the Clinton foundation being very much involved in our foreign policy. And nobody, well, I can’t say nobody, but it seems like there’s going to be no true investigation or any penalties for that, but that is certainly a mix up. We have the CIA involved in our foreign policy, and that’s bad enough, but now we have this other deep state affair with private foundations to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. The reporting requirement is totally ignored, nobody knows exactly where most of that, or at least a lot of that money, went.

Very little of it went to help poor people around the world. Yet, this is what we live with, because we accept on policy certain things that can only be financed this way, because there’s not enough money in the American taxpayers’ pockets that they’re willing to cough up. I believe there would be very few wars if the people had to pay for the wars, if they had to be taxed or they would have to loan the money to the government, there wouldn’t be very many wars. But when you can deceive the people, lie about the danger that exists, and then finance it in a way where Congress is really excluded, you finance it by just borrowing and the Federal Reserve printing it. It’s out of control, and it will come to an end, we’re nearing stage. I think that the American people need to wake up to what’s happening in foreign policy.

I know some people’s eyes are rolling and they say, “Why are you guys worrying about those poor countries in Africa, we need to do our best to help them?” Well, there are good reasons, there are geopolitical reasons for this, and there’s also economic reasons. Because this type of policy is a major contributor to the financial mess this country is in.

I want to thank everybody for tuning in today to The Liberty Report, and please come back soon.