Here's the problem and possible solution. After spending thousands of dollars on package design, NOTHING came to fruition...I hear the containers are leaking in shipping because they use a frikin milk container. THAT needs to stop, especially if it is potential bio-hazard. Second, Francis and Solakin need to expunge all options, shares Lownthal holds and return to treasury. Quip and NYCO can sell product, but there has to be a professional organization behind it. You are right, Lowenthal turned into a liar, scumbag, only for his enrichment.