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Re: Jayyy post# 3849

Sunday, 10/04/2015 3:54:33 PM

Sunday, October 04, 2015 3:54:33 PM

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IMO the key word here is any substance CAN interfere with body processes. Mr. Strom does not say WILL interfere with body processes. It is acknowledging that any should be aware even with taking supplements, that unintended consequences CAN occur. That is why the safety is studied. Sucanon, with a therapeutic index of >10,000 and no teratogenicity, mutagenicity has shown safety in preclinical and clinical studies and been out in use for 14 years for post clinical issues to be identified.
One example of concern identified with supplement use might be creatine used by athletes to help muscle growth. Creatine was loosely implicated in causing kidney failure in a group of wrestlers that trained in a hot room and became dehydrated and many were hospitalized with issues including kidney failure. Creatine was implicated as a cause even though they had signs of a condition called exertional rhabdomyolysis which was likely responsible for the kidney issues.
As a practitioner treating athletes, out of an abundance of caution, I recommend that they remain well hydrated IF they choose to use creatine, as many do anyway. There are 2 reasons that I mention the caution. One is to educate folks on the data, another is to mitigate any liability for the team doctor and the athlete's school.
There are few similarities between this example and Sucanon. One that comes to mind, though, is that my role is not to recommend,because I am not a regulatory entity, but to educate based on available data and scientific principles. Another is to do with the MDA endorsement of Sucanon. First it is a fact that the Mexican government regulatory body approved Sucanon for sale without a prescription. Second MDA endorsed Sucanons use and made a standard statement that they include for every endorsement that they recommend checking with your doctor before using it. This is very similar to the caution on the OTC 200mg ibuprofen in my own medicine cabinet that says among other cautions "ask a doctor or pharmacist before use if you are : under a doctors care for any serious condition, taking any other drug, taking aspirin for heart attack or stroke..." It also says "ask a doctor before taking if you are on a diuretic, have high blood pressure, heart disease, kidney disease, liver cirrhosis, or asthma..." So before a big deal is made of "not recommending" or "on the advice of a doctor" I suggest that we think about the ibuprofen warnings and for goodness sake call your doctor before taking ibuprofen with any of the above issues...