Soh, Yap, where are their holdings other than what has been given to them? Tell me what they have accomplished from a business perspective. Does Solomon refer to them on any call, saying you have been involved with this why don't you speak to this... Dan has bought, Niesse too, personally I have more than most directors, so do many of others that comment on this board.
By the way do a IRR calc, you have to be nuts not to get a loan and do a buy back at these levels, nuts...