Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:10:38 PM
BORTGHAZI!!--Uh Oh, Lying Liar Carly Fiorina’s Planned Parenthood Lie Just Turned Into A Bigger Lie
(why is nobody discussing the fact that all of this "stock" footage of abortions, births, etc., is actually illegally obtained?)
oh, and my thanks to a poster on wonkette for "bortghazi"
Science facts
Uh Oh, Lying Liar Carly Fiorina’s Planned Parenthood Lie Just Turned Into A Bigger Lie
Maybe the demon sheep did it
We are not a doctor, or even a scientist, but anonymous lady person on the Twitters says she is, and she does a whole lot of doctorsplaining about how the video of an aborted fetus is in no way a video of an aborted fetus. And she is not the only doctor doing doctorsplaining about how this video of an abortion is in no way a video of an abortion.
Tell us the reasons, Dr. Jen Gunter:
Here are all the issues with the video from start to finish:
It is illegally and clandestinely shot. I feel very badly for the poor woman in question and wonder why Fiorina and our elected officials are not as outraged as I am about her violation and exploitation. I had second thoughts about watching it myself given the lack of consent from the woman, however, I felt if I could end the conversation about it faster by weighing in. Time magazine or Slate have links.
The prep of the patient. The physician (I’m assuming) pours surgical prep/cleaner on the woman’s perineum. We don’t do that anymore for spontaneous deliveries or for abortions that involve induction of labor. This tells me this video is at least 15 years old or from another country.
The delivery. It is a spontaneous delivery as the operator waits for the fetus to be expelled. This is what we do with a previable premature delivery. If this were shot mid way through a 2nd trimester abortion (meaning the Laminaria in the cervix, which are osmotic sticks that help the cervix dilate, had just been removed) it is highly unlikely the operator would have waited for a spontaneous expulsion.
The cord is clamped on the fetal side. If this were an abortion it would just be cut. Really. No one ever does this with an abortion as it serves no purpose.
Waiting for the placenta. The clamp is left on the placental end and at the end of the video the placenta still hasn’t delivered. If this were an abortion the placenta would be removed with suction immediately, no one would wait 11 minutes. Ever. Every abortion clinic has a suction machine.
There is no proof this video is in a Planned Parenthood clinic never mind in the United States. This could easily be an operating room.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/594388/uh-oh-lying-liar-carly-fiorinas-planned-parenthood-lie-just-turned-into-a-bigger-lie#bFzpEYyrAZjDZAqJ.99
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027215265
(why is nobody discussing the fact that all of this "stock" footage of abortions, births, etc., is actually illegally obtained?)
oh, and my thanks to a poster on wonkette for "bortghazi"
Science facts
Uh Oh, Lying Liar Carly Fiorina’s Planned Parenthood Lie Just Turned Into A Bigger Lie
Maybe the demon sheep did it
We are not a doctor, or even a scientist, but anonymous lady person on the Twitters says she is, and she does a whole lot of doctorsplaining about how the video of an aborted fetus is in no way a video of an aborted fetus. And she is not the only doctor doing doctorsplaining about how this video of an abortion is in no way a video of an abortion.
Tell us the reasons, Dr. Jen Gunter:
Here are all the issues with the video from start to finish:
It is illegally and clandestinely shot. I feel very badly for the poor woman in question and wonder why Fiorina and our elected officials are not as outraged as I am about her violation and exploitation. I had second thoughts about watching it myself given the lack of consent from the woman, however, I felt if I could end the conversation about it faster by weighing in. Time magazine or Slate have links.
The prep of the patient. The physician (I’m assuming) pours surgical prep/cleaner on the woman’s perineum. We don’t do that anymore for spontaneous deliveries or for abortions that involve induction of labor. This tells me this video is at least 15 years old or from another country.
The delivery. It is a spontaneous delivery as the operator waits for the fetus to be expelled. This is what we do with a previable premature delivery. If this were shot mid way through a 2nd trimester abortion (meaning the Laminaria in the cervix, which are osmotic sticks that help the cervix dilate, had just been removed) it is highly unlikely the operator would have waited for a spontaneous expulsion.
The cord is clamped on the fetal side. If this were an abortion it would just be cut. Really. No one ever does this with an abortion as it serves no purpose.
Waiting for the placenta. The clamp is left on the placental end and at the end of the video the placenta still hasn’t delivered. If this were an abortion the placenta would be removed with suction immediately, no one would wait 11 minutes. Ever. Every abortion clinic has a suction machine.
There is no proof this video is in a Planned Parenthood clinic never mind in the United States. This could easily be an operating room.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/594388/uh-oh-lying-liar-carly-fiorinas-planned-parenthood-lie-just-turned-into-a-bigger-lie#bFzpEYyrAZjDZAqJ.99
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027215265
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