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Aruba: Anyone have more info on murdered male?

April 8, 2006 :
Aruba : Murdered male whose burned & mutilated body was found in Guadirikir Cave is bouncer from Choose-A-Name Bar
According to other articles, the victim’s name is Dinesh Djoegan, born in Suriname, 5/29/1980 and lived in Pos Chiquito 89-B.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/04/10/diario-car-confiscated-investigators-are-on-the-right-track-...


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Burned mutilated body was discovered outside a cave
There are conflicting reports on this individual's name... Maikel Judan or Dinesh Djoegan, born in Suriname, 5/29/1980 and lived in Pos Chiquito 89-B.
Car confiscated Investigators are on the right track about the cruel case of Guadirikiri
http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2006/04/newest-info-on-murdered-bouncer.html

Jossy Mansur--"It's not a rumor, it's a fact. A body was found in a cave that we call "wadirikiri". It was very seriously burnt. When the police got there, the body was still in flames. A lady apparently saw the flames and notified the authorities. The police have not been able to identify the body as yet."

PREVIOUS UPDATE: The body is not Natalee's. An adult male body was found in the Quadirikiri Caves, which are in Arikok Park near the Fontein Cave...close to where the piece of fabric that looked like Natalee's shirt was found last summer. This man was found dead with his head bashed in, his legs cut off, tied up, and burning by the caves at Guadirikir.

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About the bar, Choose a Name:

Choose-a-name is aimed toward an older (thirty-something) crowd than other spots like Carlos & Charlies and Bahia. It is popular for the friday happy hour, which, seeing as that nightlife is expensive in Aruba, is a good deal (an Afl. 25,- cover includes an all-you-can-drink bar for 2 hours -6 to 8- and small snacks). There is often a life band, sometimes 'Claudius Phillips & Oreo', the best local band. Lots of local professionals like to go here to start out the weekend. It is situated on the second floor behind the pink Royal Plaza building.

owner Ton Rojer : ....newly opened and intriguingly monikered Choose a Name Bar,...
http://arubatravelinfo.com/topnews3_2.html
... where nightly specials - from Wednesday karaoke to Sunday after-beach parties - keep things hopping all week. The crowd is blossoming beneath the blaring music as I arrive, but owner Ton Rojer tells me it doesn't really get going until around 11. The cozy upstairs lounge is not quite as loud; I beat it up there so conversation becomes less a contact sport....

Choose-a-Name Bar is adjacent to Marriott Marina Hotel in Oranjestad, Aruba
Nightlife near the Hotel :
http://honeymoons.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=honeymoons&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fma...

Renaissance Marina Hotel
Driving Directions: On the waterfront, just a 10 minute drive from Queen Beatrix International Airport, within walking distance of the vibrant center of Oranjestad.


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Arikok National Park : Tunnel of Love and Guadirikiri Caves ( Fontein Cave is nearby)

...almost 20 percent of the island has been set aside as the Arikok National Park. It encompasses a significant chunk of the interior and a long stretch of the northern windward coast. The enclosed wilderness preserve has 21 miles of marked hiking trails...
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/arikok.html

Tunnel of Love and Guadirikiri Caves :
(with photo, click on photo to enlarge... reviews indicate it is not a pleasant place even with that special someone.... )
....Hidden away in the outer reaches of Arikok National Park, the cave complex of Tunnel of Love and Guadirikiri Caves is just the place to take your special someone ....
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/tunnel_of_love.html
....Guadirikiri even has a bona fide legend to go along with its spookiness: the headstrong daughter of an Indian chief and her unsuitable suitor are said to have been trapped within the cave and left to perish but, defiant after the end, their love-boosted spirits burst through the roof of the caves and shot up to heaven. ....


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Maps of Aruba:
Map includes location of Joran van der Sloot home:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/post_20suspect_202.bmp
and (marked with Primary Road & Secondary Roads along with Points of Interest)
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubamap.gif
and
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/attractionsmap.html
and
http://www.beachdestinations.com/ShareWeb/Maps/Aruba/Aruba%20Map.gif


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Aruban Mansur Family:

Jossy Mansur, owner and chief editor of the newspaper, "Diario" is often quoted or interviewed regarding news about Aruba (ie the Natalie Holloway disappearance & also the case about the adult male body was found in the Quadirikiri Caves)

Summer 1997, "The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba"
...."The Sicilian Mafia clan of the families Cuntrera and Caruana allegedly had taken over the island. Between 1988 and 1992 they acquired 60 per cent of Aruba through investments in hotels, casino's and the election-campaign of a Prime Minister."...
http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm#75b
Aruba & the Mansurs :
NOTE: ...."Five members of the Aruban Mansur Family, viz. Mr. Elias F. Mansur, Mrs. Damia M. de Cuba-Mansur, Mr. Luis E. Mansur, Mr. Miguel J. Mansur and Mrs. Sarah E. Arends-Mansur, have raised objections against general references in the following chapter to the Mansurs or the Mansur family. In their opinion these references may be understood as including them and thereby implicating them in alleged wrongdoing they have never committed."....

The article includes:
Jossy Mansur

..."Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". "When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government,"says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba. Their newspapers force others off the market. Furthermore, "their annual income is bigger than the yearly budget of the government. And you may guess how they make that kind of money”."Jossy Mansur is not impressed claiming that accusing people of drug trafficking and money laundering "has become a political tool to discredit them”."...
and
..."Jossy Mansur acts as the family's mouthpiece, Ruben and the elder Alex are the patriarchs, and Elias 'Don' Mansur is the family's whizz-kid. Elias graduated at Notre Dame University, and was Minister of Economic Affairs in Eman's first cabinet. As representative for the Free Trade Zone entrepreneurs in a mixed Dutch-Aruban commission he has to recommend measures to tighten regulations in the FTZ to prevent money laundering and contraband, together with Dutch government officials. "...
Mansur Family:

..."The Interbank is owned by the Mansur Family. If anybody owns 60 per cent of the island, it is this powerful family.
The Mansurs made their fortune as cigarette manufacturers and in the import-export business. With a licence of Philip Morris, they are the major suppliers of Marlboros in the Caribbean basin. The Mansurs sponsor the best baseball team – Aruba's national sport – the Marlboro Red Tigers as well as the AVP party of Prime Minister Henny Eman. They own the biggest hotel and time-sharing complex, La Cabana, with its inevitable casino. And they have a couple of import-export businesses in the Free Trade Zone"....

More and more the name Mansur turns up in money laundering cases.
Alex and Eric Mansur were indicted in Puerto Rico in August 1994. President Clinton specifically mentioned the Mansur's when he put Aruba on the list of Major Illicit Drug-transit Countries in December 1996. Although no member of the family was actually indicted in the La Costa case, the name Mansur is frequently is found in the files which were seized at Habibe's home on Aruba.

In Venezuela the Mansurs are implicated in money laundering with Santa Lopesierra, the Marlboro Man.
Every month Santa 're-invests' 20 million dollar "with the help of a well-known entrepreneur called Mansur”." Lopesierra is accused to have financed his election with the proceeds of drug trafficking and a car-theft ring. He is also reputed to be the man behind the Puerto Rico indictment.

The activities of Mansur and Lopesierra, however, go well beyond this.
They are accused of illegally funding the presidential campaign of Colombian president Ernesto Samper in 1994. Not only did Samper allegedly receive 6 million dollars from the Cali Cartel – an accusation he vehemently denies and ascribes to political machinations – it is said he also pocketed US$ 500,000 in cash offered by "a group from Philip Morris and Interbank”."

'Philip Morris people' are Alex and Eric Mansur and a member of the Lopesierra Family
The 'Philip Morris people' are Alex and Eric Mansur and a member of the Lopesierra Family (Santa Lopesierra belongs to the Samper faction in the Liberal Party). Samper tried to ease out of meeting the group, the story goes. He suggested that one of his campaign officials should pick up the cash and bring them to the office later for coffee. "No one gives that kind of money just for coffee. That's worth at least a breakfast," the campaign official replied.

The Mansur Family seems to have all the right connections in its corner of the Caribbean.
Some Mansur's still have Venezuelan nationality, and they have interests in Maracaibo and Caracas, as well as in Punto Fijo and Coro, where the originally Lebanese Mansur Family had settled before moving to Aruba. Punto Fijo is situated on the Paraguaná peninsula in the North at the Golfo de Venezuela, which separates it from La Guajira. A ferry connects Punto Fijo to Aruba. Some 20 years ago, in 1974, a few Sicilians set up a fishing company in Punto Fijo called "Mediterranea Pesca". Among the shareholders: Leonardo and Giuseppe Caruana and Giuseppe Cuffaro. The company owned a sea-going vessel and Italian police suspected that "in view of the background of the owners it is probably a cover for drug trafficking”."

Maybe the Mansurs and the Cuntrera-Caruana clan first met each other in this remote part of the world. Nobody knows.
But they certainly have met on Aruba, according to several insiders and law enforcement officers. Venezuelan police-officer Guillermo Jiménez states: "I know they are connected. I have sent files about bank transactions between the Mansur's and the Cuntrera's to Aruba. But documents about the Mansur's are kept secret over there." DEA-officer David Lorino is equally convinced and has connected the Cuntreras with Ruben Mansur. In his judgement, "Ruben Mansur is a major-league dope-peddler”." The DEA has the toll-records of the Cuntrera phones in Caracas. "They phoned Mansur's trading company and his place. They certainly talked to each other." What they said, Lorino doesn't know, since it is not permitted to tap phones in Venezuela."....

Most likely the "Corriere della Sera" took a short turn when it alleged the clan had taken over the island.
The only 'clan' capable to own a considerable part of Aruba is the Mansur Family. Most observers do agree on that supposition. Nothing moves on Aruba without the consent of the Mansur's: "If you want to do business on the island, you have to deal with them."Probably the Cuntrera-Caruana clan took advantage of the vast opportunities which Aruba had to offer, linked themselves with local entrepreneurs who were in the same kind of business, and left when they became too exposed. But they certainly did not leave at the first setback, when their activities were disclosed in "Business Week" in 1988.

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Messrs. L. E. and J. Mansur (represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona and Mr. John H. van der Kuyp) v. the Netherlands, Communication No. 883/1999, U.N. Doc. CCPR/C/67/D/883/1999 (9 November 1999).
http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/undocs/session67/view883.htm
Mansurs are ..."members of the business community in Aruba. Among other enterprises Luis Emilio Mansur is co-owner of a shipping company and Jossy Mehren Mansur is owner and editor-in-chief of a newspaper and co-owner of a trading company."...

...Jossy is part owner of the casino at La Cabana which is going through bankruptcy now. The Mansurs & their partners have been stalling rent payments of the casino to La Cabana for several years with the apparent blessing of the governent & judicial system of Aruba. Read into that what you will. People have a "healthy respect" for Jossy Mansur. He is not considered a benevolent overseer of the interests of locals. There are several powerful families who seem to run the governent & business affairs of the island.....

...Mansur owns a Shipping Co.? And is a big shot on an itty bitty island known for money laundering for drug cartels. An itty bitty island with lots of American tourists and lots of casinos. An itty bitty island 16 miles from Venezuela and a hop further to Columbia. Mansur and how many like him?...