lol...that's some good shootin there, Tex Maybe gear up for some crying because you expressed some negative views...many soft ears here who may have coincidentally migrated to VNTH lol. I agree with the vast majority in principle not sure about the SS being all fkked up but I do know a guy could go ahead and handle this informally or formally in some better way. One must ask wth the hiring of Soldinger, then Malone-Bailey accounting firms and so on had as a purpose here-- everyone just somehow fails and mistakes are all over the place and so the "my hands are tied" story rolls out. There are many people with degrees that are garbage at an ethical level, regardless of whether they have decent analytic skills. That dude who was at a Boston uni and denounced global warming as really a result of some sun effect was on the take from major conservative fossil fuel supporting groups, it turned out. If true, sad but unsurprising. Well, we will see. I believe if enough of us articulate our deep-seated concerns about possible manipulations of ownership, space-act agreements originally awarded to MSGI and so forth to the NASA general counsel office, it would be a good start. No doubt they've heard the story from a few sources, but our concerns matter, too. For those who are unhappy and don't want the hassle of investigating the merits of a class-action against the people who've found a way to walk with your investment, the inquiry at this office may be a reasonable alternative. http://www.nasa.gov/offices/ogc/about/index.html#.VRLgg47F-Fk SD PS If the Space-act agreements are for 5 years, there is time to voice your concerns, write a letter, etc, all may not be lost, as the Space-Act agreement is with MSGI, not with "new" companies and so on. Now is the time to act, and a well-wrought letter expressing your concerns to the group that still retains control over tech right distributions etc is a good way to get this done NOW, before the big money rolls in with the results from paid trials with Roche, etc. If we believe we're getting cut out of what we invested in, consider raising the issue with the office that oversees the regulation of these tech gotten through Space-Act agreements. They are not the SEC but they are tax-payer paid gatekeepers that have some responsibility to assure ethical standards are being met by recipients, including the treatment of investors like us. SD