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Re: Andy Grave post# 136521

Monday, 09/15/2014 1:58:27 PM

Monday, September 15, 2014 1:58:27 PM

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....also says the TSMC 16FF+ process, which Morris Chang said would be delayed until 2H 2015, has been pulled into 1H 2015


He may be misquoting. This is the reference "out of Taiwan" that he is likely referring to.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20140825PB201.html

It mentions 16nm, but not 16FF+. According to this blog post, 16FF+ is a 2nd generation FinFET process.

http://www.cadence.com/Community/blogs/ii/archive/2014/04/28/2014-tsmc-technology-symposium-full-speed-ahead-for-16nm-finfet-plus-10nm-and-7nm.aspx

No doubt TSMC is now very aggressive with their process roadmap. Here's what I've been able to mine online.


20nm: Claimed vs. 28nm: 1.2x perf, 1.3x power redux, 1.9x density
- Risk production Q2'13, Volume production Q1'14, Qualcomm modem Q2'14, Apple A8 Q3'14

16nmFF: Claims 1.4x perf and ISO-area vs. 20nm
- Risk production Q4'13, Expected volume production Q1'15, Expected Apple A9 Q3'15...?

16nmFF+: 1.6x perf and 0.85 die size reduction vs. 20nm
- Design kits ready April, with additional roll-out in May, July. No specifics on risk or volume production
- (my comment) Can't see this being all that popular, unless it refreshes a few designs in H1'16, or if 10nm is delayed

10nm: Claimed vs. 16nmFF+: 1.25x perf, 1.45x power redux, 2.2x density
- Vs. 28nm: ~2x perf, 0.5x power, ~5x density
- Average CAGR per node (out of 3 nodes): 1.25x perf, 0.8x power, 1.7x density
- Product tapeouts and risk production end of 2015, goal of customer product launches in 2016

7nm: No data on benefits
- Targeting mid-2017 risk production, 6 months earlier than 2-year cycle



What this says is that TSMC plans to provide 3.5 process nodes in 3 years (20/16/16+/10 in '14/'15/'16), and 4.5 process nodes in 5 years (add 7nm and '18).

This is a roadmap that ought to catch up to Intel's cadence. So it should be as easy as a walk in the sunshine for them.
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