LMAO.Just as I thought. Nothing whatsoever about their status only the reference to notes payable.So your claims are of course,wrong. There is nothing in the 10Q from FFFC mentioning the status of either of the two companies.I don't mind exposing misleading info posted by you here.Thanks for your help. Just go read the "Q's" of the other two & find the answers. OH WAIT, one of them does not file since it was SUSPENDED by SEC! LMAO!