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Re: StephanieVanbryce post# 222799

Saturday, 05/24/2014 9:53:34 PM

Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:53:34 PM

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I agree, it would be dangerous if Rodger's possible Asperger's Syndrome, was made a scapegoat ..
http://www.inquisitr.com/1265968/elliot-rodger-aspergers-syndrome-to-be-the-scapegoat-for-the-santa-barbara-shooting-like-adam-lanza/ .. for his mass murder .. his videos .. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/05/24/the-disturbing-internet-footprint-of-santa-barbara-shooter-elliot-rodger/ .. certainly made clear he had mental problems .. but where do you draw the line to mentally ill, or not? .. he could very well have been more simply an ego driven, lonely, very narcissistic, (that was the first word that came to mind on watching his most publicized video in full as i just did) young rich guy who, as so many do, thought he was the ants pants .. and that simply because he saw himself as a relatively good looking, relatively affluent young man, in a relatively privileged social position women should like him .. i'm thinking that if he has not been in the measure of affluence position he was in he may not have developed the problem he had .. that's neither here nor there though as if he weren't he would not have been him, though the point there is there is no doubt he felt he was a specially privileged young man .. then there was the thought that even if he was mentally ill that madness should not necessarily excuse his murder ..

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Is insanity the secret companion to ­genius? Though we can't very well perform psychological examinations on those who are long dead, that hasn't stopped historians from speculating about the mental conditions of deceased geniuses by interpreting their personal letters, their works and others' accounts. It turns out some of the world's greatest geniuses were quite mad. In fact, some scientis­ts claim that a far greater percentage of creative types (poets, painters, musicians and the like) have been afflicted with bipolar disorder than the general ­population. Some of the world's most renowned creative minds, including writers Mary Shelley, Virginia Woolf, and Ernest Hemingway; composers Irving Berlin and Sergey Rachmaninoff; and painters Paul Gauguin and Jackson Pollock are all believed to have suffered from the illness [source: Patient Health International].

­Despite evidence of a link between genius and madness, no one has proved that such a link exists. However, scientists at the University of Toronto have discovered that creative people possess little to no "latent inhibition," the unconscious ability to reject unimportant or irrelevant stimuli. As University of Toronto psychology professor Jordan Peterson puts it, "This means that creative individuals remain in­ contact with the extra information constantly streaming in from the environment. The normal person classifies an object, and then forgets about it, even though that object is much more complex and interesting than he or she thinks. The creative person, by contrast, is always open to new possibilities" [source: University of Toronto].

­Let's take a look at these mad geniuses -- the famous thinkers and artists who may have experienced mental illness. First, we'll inspect the modern case of John Nash...
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/mad-genius.htm
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as as far as i know none of those mad geniuses killed anyone to fill a personal void as he did .. bottom line is mentally ill does not necessarily excuse the murderous mayhem .. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/09/24/mental-health-navy-yard-aurora-newtown-column/2865509/ .. he committed .. it is very sad for all .. and worrying that he could not have been served better beforehand .. how many more will there be before those most concerned take signposts as Elliot Rodger's put up as a very real and potentially dangerous real cry for help?

.. it's a rough rant which i hope taps a bit of the message of your feeling .. maybe just the fact he ended up going to the extreme he did means he was mentally ill ..

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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