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Re: Strykerd post# 206664

Friday, 04/18/2014 11:36:23 AM

Friday, April 18, 2014 11:36:23 AM

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Yes. That is a simple explanation and that explanation is simpler than the others presented.

However, Occam's Razor was not used.

To use Occam's Razor one first has to have two or more explanations that are from the same point of view and at the same level of explanation. This is done so that one is comparing whole apples with other whole apples placed on a table so that their calyx is on the bottom and their stems are on top (same levels of explanation) and viewed from sitting in a chair in front of the table at particular angle (same point of view).

If the point of view is different, there will automatically be different descriptions and explanations for the same phenomenal thing. For example, if the point of view of an apple is from the ceiling looking down at the stem and top of the apple versus sitting in a chair looking across and seeing a frontal view of the apple, a description or photo of the apples as actually placed and seen (not imagined) from different points of view will be different. And if the apples are laid on their sides rather than placed on the calyx or the apples are split in two to reveal their interior parts, the explanations will be different and incomparable if comparing whole and sectioned apples. Imagine how stupid the results would be to compare apples and oranges while imagining that the oranges are apples.

So Occam's Razor cannot be used in such cases since one is not comparing the same thing from the same point of view. This confusion of point of view and level of explanation is the source of conflictual and contradictory views from the smallest verbal spat to the most devastating war. Peeps ain't on the same page.

Here is a long sentence. A description and explanation of seeing color by describing the effects of light entering the eye through the lens to stimulate chromophores of proteins that leads to the isomerization of rhodposin present in the rods and cones of the retina that eventually results in neurochemical transmissions across synaptic clefts via specific nerve cells to particular parts and region of the brain allows the perception of color is a description/explanation that is not from a psychological, metaphysical, or organic parts point of view.

In this explanation, there is no psychological "I" claiming abilities to see color (personal psychological point of view). Plato's God or gods are not involved in the creation and operation of vision (metaphysical point of view). Biological parts (pupil, lens, fovea, retina, rods and cones, nerves, brain) alone are not considered in the main (biological point of view). The point of view taken is non-personal and is, in the main, focused on biochemical processes happening within the rods and cones of the retina as a result of a light stimulus. It is a physicobiochemical level of explanation.

In this case, to apply Occam's Razor requires two or more physicobiochemical explanations of seeing color. Then choose the simpler of the two. Since there were four different points of view and four different levels of explanation with only one explanation in each, Occam's Razor cannot be applied as to which is the simpler.

So there is agreement with this comment:

In fact, it's probably best I avoid ever citing Occam's razor unless I am damn well sure I know what I am doing with it. Lol!


So it is with any phenomenal explanations including trading stocks like FNMA and FMCC and trying to determine the direction and of pricing.

Source:
"I Have Seen the Light!" Vision and Light-Induced Molecular Changes
http://www.chemistry.wustl.edu/~edudev/LabTutorials/Vision/Vision.html

An old friend:
Studies in the Logic of Explanation by Carl G. Hempel; Paul Oppenheim
Philosophy of Science, Vol. 15, No. 2. (Apr., 1948), pp. 135-175.
http://www.sfu.ca/~jillmc/Hempel%20and%20Oppenheim.pdf

Note: Plucking plants from other's garden's is easy to do. One simply goes to the garden plucks a few choice items, takes them home and prepares them on one's own table for self and/or others. It is a courtesy to say that these selected plants come from Jimmy's garden since they were not grown in one's own garden. Of course, it is not necessary to do this in one sense since all that we know has its origin from others before and contemporary with us whether we realize those origins or not. But it is a courtesy usually appreciated.