Biz, the problem is the ctdt equities are worth almost nothing right now so putting them as collateral for a loan would be counterproductive If you know what I mean. And if ctdt equities are worth something in the future then the pps would be much higher to start off with I am very appreciative of the updates, but I also find it very hard to believe they are taking almost a year to raise measly $3M It seems like a bad joke or bad dream Depending on how you look at it