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Friday, 02/22/2008 7:12:35 AM

Friday, February 22, 2008 7:12:35 AM

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Chunga, I was going to post the article below, searched and saw yours, then a board
search and got the other so, ummm, joining them here .. you appreciate different
points of view .. heh, just thought you may have read them both, but maybe not ..

chunga ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27007723

Excerpts:
"Mughniyeh's broad-based leadership role in the global terror nexus was made clear by the reaction of seemingly unrelated terror groups to his death. Representatives of the reputedly nationalist, secularist Fatah terror group expressed their pride in his life's work. "We're very proud to have had a Palestinian holding such a high position in Hizbullah," a Fatah official who worked with Mughniyeh in the 1970s and 1980s told The Jerusalem Post."

"After Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, Mughniyeh worked as a middle-man bringing Hamas under Iranian control. fuagf, NOT CHECKED??? .. That control was consolidated in a meeting between Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Syrian President Bashar Assad and Mughniyeh in Damascus in January 2001, after Hamas's electoral victory in the PA's legislative ballot.

Later in 2006, Mughniyeh returned to Lebanon to plan the kidnapping of IDF soldiers that was carried out on July 12, 2006, and precipitated that summer's Second Lebanon War. .. foo, NOT SURE OF THAT EITHER??? .. Mughniyeh reportedly commanded Hizbullah forces during the campaign. After the war, he oversaw Hizbullah's rearmament as well as the training of Hizbullah and Hamas forces in Iran. Saad bin Laden had reportedly travelled to Syria to oversee weapons shipments to Hizbullah during the war.

ANY OF THAT COULD BE TRUE AND MAY NOT BE .. JUST
AS ANY OF THE ARTICLE BELOW .. PEOPLE'S CHERCE .. :)

It is possible that Mughniyeh was irreplaceable."

fuagf add, SORRY, THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE .. i don't believe it stands with historical fact and have certainly not seen it before .. about anyone, heh, even Presidents. It is not ossible .. more importantly it seems Caroline Glick should know that, so who is Caroline Glick? .. ok, you all know, but ;) i don't, so here is a snippet ..

"In Contrast to Paul and Huckabee, Barack Obama has a good chance of securing his party's nomination for president and winning the general election. And this is disturbing because like Paul, he enjoys the support of hateful bigots. And like Paul and Huckabee, he holds foreign policy positions which are based on the notion that the global jihad is not a serious threat.

Although the rumors that Obama - whose father and step-father were Muslims and who was educated in Muslim schools in
Indonesia - is a Muslim are demonstrably false, his Christian affiliations are a cause for alarm in and of themselves.

Obama belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
Its minister and Obama's spiritual adviser is Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CarolineBGlick/2008/01/21/the_audacity_of_truth

Steph
http://tonykaron.com/2008/02/16/mugniyeh-killing-will-hurt-israel-more-than-hizballah/

Excerpts:
If a person in the street were asked to name the area of enterprise in which we Israelis excel,
his answer would probably be: Hi-Tech. ..... Little Israel is one of the major hi-tech powers in the world. ..........

But the profession in which Israel is not only one of the biggest, but the unchallenged Numero Uno is: liquidations.

This week this was proven once again. The Hebrew verb "lekhassel" - liquidate - in all its grammatical forms, currently dominates our public discourse. Respected professors debate with academic solemnity when to "liquidate" and whom. Used generals discuss with professional zeal the technicalities of "liquidation", its rules and methods. Shrewd politicians compete with each other about the number and status of the candidates for "liquidation".

Indeed, for a long time now there has not been such an orgy of jubilation
and self-congratulation in the Israeli media as there was this week." ..............

He was a "terrorist". And not just a terrorist, a master terrorist! An arch-terrorist! The very king of terrorists! From hour to hour his stature grew, reaching gigantic proportions. Compared to him, Osama Bin-Laden is a mere beginner. The list of his exploits grew from news report to news report, from headline to headline.

There is and never has been anyone like him. For years he has kept out of sight. But our good boys - many, many good boys - have not neglected him for a moment. They worked day and night, weeks and months, years and decades, in order to trace him. They "knew him better than his friends, better than he knew himself"[/b} (verbatim quote from a respected Haaretz commentator, gloating like all his colleagues).

True, one killjoy Western commentator argued on Aljazeera that Mughniyeh had dropped from sight because he had ceased to be important, that his great days as a terrorist were in the 80s and 90s, when he hijacked a plane and brought down the Marine headquarters in Beirut and Israeli institutions abroad. Since Hizbullah has turned into a state-within-the-state, with a kind of regular army, he had - according to this version - outlived his usefulness.

But what the hell. Mughniyeh-the-person has disappeared, and Mughniyeh-the-legend has taken his place, a world-embracing mythological terrorist, who has long been marked as "a Son of Death" (i.e. a person to be killed) as declared on TV by another out-of-use general. His "liquidation" was a huge, almost supra-natural, achievement, much more important than Lebanon War II, in which we were not so very successful. The "liquidation" equals at least the glorious Entebbe exploit, if not more.

True, the Holy Book enjoins us: "Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth / Lest the Lord see it and it displeases him." (Proverbs 24:17) But this was not just any enemy, it was a super-super-enemy,".................

As chance would have it, the "liquidation" was carried out only a few days after I wrote an article about the inability of occupying powers to understand the inner logic of resistance organizations. Mughniyeh's "liquidation" is an outstanding example of this. (Of course, Israel gave up its occupation of South Lebanon some years ago, but the relationship between the parties has remained as it was.)

"In the eyes of the Israeli leadership, the "liquidation" was a huge success. We have "cut off the head of the serpent" (another headline from Haaretz). We have inflicted on Hizbullah immense damage, so much that it cannot be repaired. "This is not revenge but prevention", as another of the guided reporters (Haaretz again) declared. This is such an important achievement, that it outweighs the inevitable revenge, whatever the number of victims-to-be.

In the eyes of Hizbullah, thing look quite different. The organization has acquired another precious asset: a national hero, whose name fills the air from Iran to Morocco. The "liquidated" Mughniyeh is worth more than the live Mughniyeh, irrespective of what his real status may have been at the end of his life.

Enough to remember what happened here in 1942, when the British "liquidated" Abraham Stern (a.k.a. Ya'ir): from his blood the Lehi organization (a.k.a. Stern Gang) was born and became perhaps the most efficient terrorist organization of the 20th century.

Therefore, Hizbullah has no interest at all in belittling the status of the liquidatee. On the contrary,
Hassan Nasrallah, exactly like Ehud Olmert, has every interest in blowing up his stature to huge proportions." ........

"I suspect that the real reason is both political and psychological.
Political, because it is always popular. After every "liquidation", there is much jubilation."

".. an additional political motivation: the army has no answer to the Qassams, nor has it any desire to get enmeshed in the re-occupation of the Gaza Strip, with all the expected casualties. A sensational "liquidation" is a simple alternative."

The psychological reason is also clear: it is satisfying. True, the "liquidation" - as the word shows - is more appropriate for the underworld than for the security organs of a state. But it is a challenging and complex task, as in a Mafia film, which gives much satisfaction to the "liquidators". Ehud Barak, for example, was a liquidator from the start of his military career. When the "liquidation" ends in success, the executioners can raise glasses of champagne.

A mixture of blood, champagne and folly is an
intoxicating but toxic cocktail. .. end of excerpts ..

Somebody here posted an excellent article here some time ago re this creation of heroes ..
break time .. ummm .. i don't know and dinner is cold .. i searched a word and it may be in here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/msgsearchbyboard.asp?SearchStr=heroes&BoardID=1556&srchyr=2007
good, i picked up one i had qs about a few hours ago .. the relative
legislative successes of our two main Democratic contenders .. thanks S ..

the other may be in there .. about the west exaggerating the importance of many we we kill ..







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