chunga1 -- if you truly are open to expanding your perspective, there is more than enough (linked) in <A HREF="http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21826312" target="_blank">http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21826312</A> to get you going (and re 'A case of selective memory' in that post, see also [items linked in] <A HREF="http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=22503898" target="_blank">http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=22503898</A> and preceding and following) they are people, just like us, no less than us -- that's the starting point