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I remember when 2 mil shares here was worth something. Now it’s only $400💁🏻♂️
Thanks management👍 You’re the best. Leaving shareholders to wither away.
A curse on Chad MacKay, his family, and all of his fake business partners and endeavors🙏
They probably don’t want to disclose those 6 shares of dilution🤣
I honestly have no idea what to think about SFLM. I go back-and-forth from possible unicorn to complete scam. At this point, I would take somewhere in between gladly. I should put a .02 alert on it and stop watching altogether 🫣🤪
6 shares @ .0002?
Now .0001?
If this stock isn’t being manipulated, there are some pretty strange investors trading it. Do the MM’s just do this stuff out of boredom or is there really an algorithm? All I can say is WTF SFLM💁🏻♂️
It’s hard to know anything about the future here. Unleash the “business plan” and PPS moonshots, sell the company for a profit (after cleaning up the books at the retail investor’s expense, we got crushed again), or let it wither away into oblivion.
I know the last option makes no sense, but this is the OTC. It worries me Chad hasn’t provided more updates or statements letting investors know not to worry. But I think his original statements are enough to hope for the first scenario. If we do end up making gains here, I may still ask myself if it was worth it.😂
Less than .01 = nope.
.02+ = yup!
It will take balls of steel to hold for .02+ with the past PPS performance and all of the shares retail investors own. GLTA
You mean the crapper board where some other rando OTC stock was constantly being brought up? And some stupid idiot
CEO from another company was always talked about? And there was constant bickering between childish posters that was always OFF topic!
That was the crapper my friend! Glad it's over or I was gonna try do something about it myself. Now currently there's a lot of speculation, but who can fudgin blame anyone for that when the management is doing their best ostrich impersonation with their heads up their asses instead of in the sand? I think things have been OK around here recently🤷♂️ Honest and genuine hypothesizing is allowed here last time I checked the TOS.
Carnage brought on by our fearless leader Chad McKay. The man, the myth, the legend. Supporting at need children by night, and ignoring shareholders valiantly by day.
5 minutes alone with one of these mf’rs is all I ask. Just to remind them this isn’t a private company and shareholders have feelings too.
So I wonder what this no volume means?
1. It’s a terrible investment and no one is dumb enough, like I was, to buy it?
2. The market makers are sick of toying around with it?
3. All the scammers have moved onto another ticker?
4. All of the insiders, and most smart traders, know there is an RS or something catastrophic coming?
5. Investors are pretty much just sick and tired of Chad’s bullshit?
I really hope something changes here. I want the people running the company to either sell it to someone who can do something with it or finally start instituting their plan. This has been the biggest “stick in the mud” that I have ever invested in. But I’m a stubborn OTC trader and I refuse to take the loss here. I’m gonna ride this bitch to zero/no bid/bankruptcy/dissolution if I have to! But trust me, I would much rather have this finally get to the much talked about on IHub $Pennyland$ 🤑
Either that… or he’s a very, very, very quiet and serious businessman that is carefully, and painstakingly slowly, building something special.
I’ve been trading OTC stocks long enough to understand the likely eventual reality here. It’s just hard to decide taking a loss at these levels or riding the gamble for another few years in hopes of some new development or Chad finally waking the F up. Anyone that’s stuck around a few years through all of the lies and deceit deserves some gains IMO!
Chad MacKay sure does pretend to be an awesome business partner on the Loyal Companies website. Reading their website closely makes me believe this whole thing is complete bullsh!t.
“We invest in relationships before we invest in companies.”
“We invest in you and you invest in operationally focused, aligned interests, shared purpose and successful partnerships!”
“Our team is passionate and experienced in helping companies take their business to the next level.”
“We care about you, with all the experience we have and all the companies and entrepreneurs that have grown together, we roll up our sleeves alongside you.”
“We are engaged and immersed into your business to solve problems, and create growth and opportunity.”
“Building a strong business is hard, we know. We are all in from day one with much more than just capital. We will work closely together to execute our Buy & Build approach.”
“People make the company and the company can make the difference!”
All the fluffy statements that you would expect from a con company, and no real substance at all. Teamwork? Only pictures of each individual and their bio, no picture of the team “working hard” together with their “sleeves rolled up.” I wonder how involved each individual really is with Loyal Companies. And good thing they got Damoa and Stout in there so they can claim “progressive thinking with diverse opinions” 😂
The portfolio is merely a list of companies, there is no explanation as to how they applied their strategies and how the relationship with Loyal Companies improved any of the businesses. And they sure do claim to be “all in” and “well vested”, with monetary investment and working capital from the get go.
I’m really starting to get concerned here as my experience with Chad McKay is nothing at all like the Loyal Companies website alludes. This is either the most secret OTC business development in recent years, or a complete sham. A sham just like Joseph Ladin and his unprofitable, scam-filled, thieving jewelry business.
So far, the Loyal Companies co-founder has shown NADA to SFLM investors, other than sending the elevator down to the bottom and showing us what the basement looks like. Gee, thanks Chad… what an awe inspiring business partner you have been.
Chad McKay should be ashamed of what has happened to the investors of a company that he purchased and has let dwindle away. No investment, no advancement, no building, and little to no communication. WTF is going on Chad? Time to sh!t or get off the pot you fool!
Out of the Uk? I was thinking Somalia, or something closer to that region.
I remember the “2-year” post you are referring to as well. My thought was that it was random drivel from the SFLM board. But perhaps there was some substance to it. Maybe the poster was privy to information that helps explain the insanity of the current management’s actions. I’m certain that what seems insane on the outside is really quite clear, if you have the “inside information”.
Ahhh the OTC and scams. It’s %100 of ‘em. They hide it one way or another. Every single one, or they’d be on the big boards trading legitimately. I picked up on that early trading pinks. I thought everyone knew?!? I don’t recommend anyone trade pinks based on my experiences.
That’s why you have to be a savage, not trade with emotion, and make the money when you see a pattern, regardless of whose money it is/was.
This was one of the few tickers I timed right, more than once💪. Too bad it looks like they really were bad guys and screwed themselves here. You guys were right all along, except one thing… Some good people made clean money trading WSRC😎
Chad MacKay = blatant disregard for shareholders.
I don’t care what the reasoning is, he’s in the wrong here. No actions, no significant communications, complete lack of respect for shareholders. He has a lot to learn.
So because it is posted on X that makes it fact. Does your DD include Instagram and TikTok? Perhaps Chad has duped you. Anyone who has traded the OTC long enough knows you cannot trust CEOs, nor what they post, due to the safe harbor statements. FYI, I wouldn’t even post responses to you if you weren’t such a pompous ass.
Or perhaps it’s not even Chad. I’ve been highly suspicious of the SFLM X site that still carries the former controller’s business name. Until there is a name change here, and some sort of definitive/official pivot from the jewelry business, I’m not believing anything or anyone. PR’s alone don’t mean sh!t down here in the sewers.
This has been one of the worst companies you could have possibly invested money in over the last three years. That’s the only fact as of today. Here’s to hoping that changes soon… Cheers😘
Conspiracies… some people don’t believe in them unless they are their own.
So if it’s not a moratorium, then it is absolutely Chad’s choice to not communicate what is happening with our company. He doesn’t own it, he just controls it. Shareholders have every right to complain here. Movement is long overdue.
Do you know the inner workings of the deal between Joseph Ladin and Chad McKay? Do you know all the terms of the transaction and every specific detail?
I know I don’t. And I doubt anyone, but the two of them, and a select few insiders, does.
There could be all kinds of crap wound into the deal that would upset us investors if we knew. We will never know.
So… therefore… speculation exists. Unless someone is specifically breaking TOS, it doesn’t matter what they post. Bring on all the theories, even those that are conspiratorial in nature. All I want, is that people take responsibility for what they post. FYI, I have my fingers and toes crossed that you are 100% right with your speculation of Chad teaming up with Deep Power and this becoming a geothermal/lithium play. Even though I think it would probably be a little bit scammy, I think it would definitely provide some much needed trading action here.
What about the “people” who continually post this is a top investment of the year and Deep Power will come to play here and this will be .02 - .25? I think I am more sick of reading those posts. Especially as I watch the PPS dwindle and my ownership stake going down month after month, year after year. This company appears to be in serious distress. If Chad can pull this thing around in 2024, and take us to pennyland, he could very well be the OTC CEO of the year
I’m certainly not accusing you of being either of the “people”. You seem to genuinely post what you are currently thinking, which is what this board is all about. I don’t see you having any agenda other than trying to make some sense out of all this nonsense👍
I’ve been waving the SOS flag for a while. Chad probably IS laughing at us. And it’s not funny. This is no better than Ladin and his jewelry scam that was pumped hard here on this board. I knew it was a joke, and everyone was trying to deny it, wasting their time posting daily useless sales information. Anyone that believed in the jewelry store and meta verse store got duped. Straight up bushwhacked. Someone should go to jail… but won’t.
Those that keep pumping this are making themselves look like desperate fools IMO. Chad has a plan, it’s to not give a crap about the company investors. He obviously could not care less about the PPS or shareholders. No communication, no laying out a plan/timeline, and no apology for buying our company and sitting on it while the PPS drops to all time lows. It would not be hard for him to act in a way to settle me down.
I hate the bashers, but sound like one because I’m fed up! Lime Wire has called the action here better than anyone else. Hopefully he’s not right about an RS or I’ll be livid holding here all these years. I truly am a stuckholder, and I hate that he’s right about that☹️
“In fact, MacKay paid the $25,000 fine for Ladin's malfeasance.”
Is that so?
Then explain the recent dilution. I beg to differ, IMO shareholders paid for it. The notes will hopefully show being paid off as well, but I doubt Chad, nor his capital investment firm, coughed up the $25,000 you speak of.
It would’ve been really nice had they invested in their new company and cleaned things up themselves, but hey, shareholders have to be used for something right? And why is the shell being cleaned up? Will it eventually benefit shareholders? Only time will tell, but the track record is no bueno. I have yet to see any proof, or real evidence, of your outward optimism here. This is eerily similar to the positivity and posts here when SFLM took the company over. And that turned out to be one giant bag of lies.
In my opinion there has been maleficence more recent than Ladin. Definition: “An act of harm or evil.” The PPS has fallen to unacceptable levels. Chad is the one responsible for this. Shareholders have been harmed by his actions, or rather, lack thereof.
But it was a jewelry company. And his post is referring to things that actually happened.
Ticker symbol still hasn’t changed and we are still called SFLMaven. Perhaps Chad did get a nice watch out of the deal. Maybe he gets one for each year the company keeps the ticker symbol and THAT’s why we haven’t changed it🤷🏻♂️
If I recall, SteveMo called this and let people know the jewelry store wouldn’t be a good investment back then. Turns out he was right. And at least he’s now posting within the realms of reality. 2-25 cents is a farce and the PPS hasn’t even come close to the fabled Pennyland.
Try to keep up with the past maleficence of this company, and those that called it correctly publicly here on this board.
It was the first time my 2’s ever got filled.
I kind of thought it indicated the ship was sinking further, but perhaps your speculation is right. I’d love to think it was Shorty ducking out before a bloodbath. A nice run here as well overdue.
You’ve called the action here better than anyone else recently. We are certainly a heck of a lot closer to zero than .02-.25, that’s for certain.
Now, most stinky pinkies are easy to call that on, and end up being right. Just like a clock twice a day. But it does concern me you somehow have information about the company and what is in the pipeline.
An R/S here would be the end for me. I’d split and take the loss. Yes, pun intended. I can tolerate (like I have a choice) the dwindling PPS and lack of communication, but if they R/S this thing then it becomes painfully obvious what the plan has been the whole time.
It’s too bad the unnecessary silence leaves shareholders like myself with this kind of pessimism. An honest little powwow from the one in control of our company sure would be reassuring. But I guess that is asking too much of Chad.
Fool me thrice, and I must be an OTC investor 🤣
The silence and Chad’s modus operandi are what make me an upset shareholder. But like you said, he’s putting this stock in a position for something to happen💁🏻♂️ Technically, the annual report does make the company look a little healthier.
Eliminating debt is a big deal. I just hope things can move forward without any further dilution, toxic notes, or offerings. I’m hoping his private equity firm gets involved when they are ready to rebrand SFLM and launch their new idea. That would be a major confidence booster.
Whether or not Chad’s plan ever comes to fruition is the big gamble. And it’s a major gamble, because he won’t even give us a glimpse of what it could look like. I’m holding my hand hoping for an ace on the river. IMO, it’s time for the showdown.
Have you ever spoken with an OTC company officer?
He will just spit out some useless drivel like a sales pitch. He legally cannot divulge inside information to an individual. I don’t think reaching out to him in person is the answer.
What he needs to do is talk to a damn lawyer and put together a public statement that will satisfy our need for information. An explanation to what has happened, as well as, a look into his future plan.
It’s that simple.
Unless, of course, there’s something to hide.
The annual showed a reduction in outstanding debt. The amount lines up with the dilution that occurred. It seems to have stopped. At this point, and at these amounts, IMO dilution is a non-issue.
It’s the silence, it’s the lack of direction, and it’s the secrecy that this is all being done in that bothers me. It’s a public company for God’s sake, and we own it. We deserve to know more about why these things are happening!!!
Perhaps you can shed some light, since you seem to know so much🤷🏻♂️
Yesterday the seashell symbol, today a yield sign… tomorrow delisted? WTF
Kinda hard to believe Loyal Companies is a legitimate entity, that lives up to its publicly made motto, and is run by the same people that are absolutely destroying our company. And worse of all, just a little bit of official communication from Chad, and he could’ve gotten out in front of these recent developments. There very well could be some valid excuses why this is happening, but how the phuck are we supposed to know?
SMH as a disgruntled investor who’s had money parked here for years😒 Not impressed by Chad or anyone pumping this disaster of a stock. No excuses for how it’s being run. It’s been a complete bust.
You would think the recent RS would have been justified by some bold actions by the company.
NOPE.
It was done to enrich the new “management team” and wipe out retail investors. The new mushroom-centric idiots are not aligned with my values. They are obviously out to take money. After a few years of sitting on this, I’m out!
Dr. Barnhill, dumbass Jr., and the entire management team should lay off the psychedelics. But hey, what do they care? As long as their salaries are paid, right?
And Curt is lost if he thinks teaming up with these knuckle heads was a good move. Bunch of hosers IMHO. Hemp has much more legitimate advocates that will hopefully move the industry forward. Regardless of my significant losses with these idiots, I still believe in the future of hemp in the USA!!!🇺🇸
Or he’s bag holding like the rest of us. Perhaps he’s waiting to see if it ever becomes worth something. I can relate.
I know if I had that many shares it’d be a tough loss to take.
This has been an ocean of tumultuousness. I don’t even see a flicker of hope anymore.
Remember, the glimmer used to be no dilution. What’s next, the dreaded RS that is supposedly not needed to right our ship? It wouldn’t shock me, Chad has not shown that he is capable of bringing things around any other way. I wish the bashers were not right about SFLM, but they have been spot on with their prognostications. I guess it would have been smarter to heed their warnings and batten down the hatches.
Chad McKay is the cofounder and managing partner of Loyal Companies.
About Loyal Companies:
“With our differentiated investment strategy and innovative solutions for sellers, we create a highly customized and structured solution. Our experienced investment team brings strong and senior board advisors.
It’s more than just money. We work with companies, owners and management teams needing a strategic partner for growth. Loyal Companies can quickly and efficiently deploy capital and draw on the accumulated knowledge, experience and network we've built over the last ten years.
We are entrepreneurial at heart. We work in collaboration with founders and creators to creatively maximize each investment with strategic growth.”
Please explain to me how it is complex for Chad to obtain financing for SFLM when he owns and operates a private capital investment firm?
Why are they not quickly and efficiently deploying capital into SFLM currently?
Where are the 10 years of accumulated knowledge and experience?
Has there been any strategic growth here since Chad took over?
It’s been more than a year, and this company is floundering. Absolute silence from the management since October of last year. Shareholders have been decimated here, after enduring a beating by the former management of the company. It’s been more than a year and they haven’t even changed the ticker symbol. Ladin was able to accomplish that in a quick manner.
If Chad McKay, and his fellow partners at loyal companies, don’t believe in providing capital to grow SFLM, then why should we believe in the company?
I had a bad feeling when Ladin took the company over, and people were pumping how great an investment opportunity the jewelry business provided. I have a bad feeling about these guys too. Something isn’t right when a capital investment firm won’t invest in their own public company.
I forget if any of the actual financial compensation to Ladin was disclosed. Nor the actual completion date of the transaction. I know the divestiture was November of ‘22, but some of the actual final compensation closing could have been later in early ‘23, once Ladin (asshat) was completely done bending over the investors of this company.
If he was given hundreds of millions of common shares, in exchange for the one controlling share, perhaps it helps explain the recent dumping at these levels. If those shares had a one year restriction, then it makes sense timing wise🤷🏻♂️
Oh how the mind wanders when the CEO won’t tell you what the phuk is going on😒
Mr. Optimism is back?
Oh wait, sorry Mr. Sarcastic😂
Regardless of who has benefited, who is pumping, and who is dumping, this is all because Chad bought the company and hasn’t done anything with it publicly.
If Ladin laid an egg on him, he should tell us. If we are going through a painful transformation, he should let us know. And some sort of a timeline of when it could change would be nice. At least a little better. Understanding of his plans moving forward. But instead… radio silence. Chad McKay is the reason the PPS is where it is.
Don’t forget the prior jewelry business.
I’m sure they had their most profitable year, last year, selling inventory purchased by the investors of SFLM. And those pumping the jewelry business the whole time were merely greasing the wheel for Ladin to pull off his scam.
This company is a sh!t show right now. Absolutely embarrassing track record. We need change. And .002 ain’t gonna do it Chad! You better run this thing to pennies.
~FML indeed~
Lots of volume today. Some big chunks being bought. I’m glad to see it.
But still a long way from pre-RS PPS or break even for me.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am so sick and tired of this GVSI group here, publicly arguing like a bunch of pansies. Whatever happened to the good old days of meeting up and duking it out. Then at least somebody comes out on top and the argument is finalized.
Wrong company, wrong board. The two companies have nothing to do with each other so please stay on topic - SFLM only. What’s up moderators?!?!
And for the record, there is no argument, SFLM has been in the dog house for years. That little fake pump made some money for a few of us, but the reality is the company is being run into the ground. It seems as if it’s being done on purpose. I’m sure there’s a story behind it, but Chad is not divulging anything. Probably for a good reason, the truth of what’s really happening is probably pretty bleak.
If this ever does takeoff into “Pennyland”, it would be worth the long wait. But I highly doubt that’s ever going to happen based on the lack of actions by current management. For a few years now, the bashers have been more accurate than anyone else posting about SFLM.
Plan #2 incorporate entities into holding company formula as alluded to by Chad MacKay.
Plan #3 change ticker symbol.
Plan #4 Leave the trips in the dust
I certainly am not a cheerleader for this company, especially after the last few years. But I highly doubt all of these recent events are a set up for dilution alone. I think there are bigger plans.
Yes, investing in the OTC is tough. Lots of losses. But when you get one that runs, it can more than pay for them all. Just like WSRC did for me ;)
That’s why I’ve been a fan of this stock over the years. Nothing to do with their claims or their legitimacy. Just that it kept my portfolio on the plus side of profits in the long run. I’ll be sad if the company dissolves. But if they can get pink current again, under a penny, best bet I’m buying!
As I stated, if it becomes tradable again, I’ll consider buying trips.
I can’t buy it while it is gray, so I’m not too sure I understand your question.
I won’t argue that you guys calling this company out wasn’t correct. So far it looks like you, Gitreal, and the gang have been accurate. But I do question what you gain from all of your efforts? Were you shorting it? I only trade and come to this board for information to try and profit on my investments. That’s my only motive.
And I’ve been here far longer than two years, getting double digit returns on more than one occasion. Technically, that’s all I’ve really ever stated. I’ve never vouched for the legitimacy of this company, nor do I really care.
I can’t help but agree. Does not look good for this company. But I will keep watching to see what plays out.
News flash… A majority of the OTC companies are a scam in one way or another. Are you new to investing down here?
Rather than obsess about whether or not a stock is somehow a scam, I prefer to try and buy low and sell for a profit.
Trips came quick, wow. Lots of volatility now that it is grey. I’ve been monitoring this one for several years and never seen anything quite like this. WSRC looks to be done for.
But if it becomes tradable again for retail investors… at these price levels… There’s no way I’ll be able to sit on the sidelines;)