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The 'stink patrol', as you call them, are making money on SPZI every day, while you are not. They have a job to do. That job is to get you to talk about them.
You are trying to make money on the stock.
They are making money by making questionable assertions.
There are no shorts. You probably smell your own shorts.
Good news! Shipments have started...PR expected next week.
It's always interesting to me to see traders that think they know the only way to be successful in the OTC.
If you use your ignore button, you won't see the nonsense. Some of us here are just waiting it out. No need for me to comment on blue sky predictions. We will know the score when the judge is done with JT and Grover.
It is not 'we'. It was JT. The suit was against him from before he even became CEO of NSAV. Grover dragged NSAV in because he didn't get some shares he says he was owed from CHIF.
That $57M number is calculated by multiplying the shares Grover didn't get by the .14 high share price in 2021. Of course, he could never have sold them for that, because to sell them would be to tank the stock before they all got sold. I once dropped the SP by 10% to prove a point - I sold 10M shares at market, and the price tanked immediately. That's what selling at market does. He could not have sold them at a limit either. I know about unloading shares, and you have to be very careful to not affect the SP. So, that $57m is pie in the sky, he simply could not have gotten that if he had the shares. Of course, he knows that, but the judge might not.
Grover's company - FOMO - or IGOT - has dropped to the expert market. He is also being sued as can be seen by reading the latest financial report.
FOGO-IGOT 10Q
You don't have to remember. It's all posted right here, from 2016 on...
It simply means that more brokerages will permit trading the stock. The reason it is slow is because the brokerages are 'moving' our stock to DTC instead of holding them for us.
It has nothing to do with supply or demand, it is simply where our shares are held.
Why would you expect a company to issue a press release when there is nothing of substance to release? I want to see what has been accomplished, not what they are thinking about.
In 2021, I had 285 million. I'm down to about 40M now. NSAV literally changed my life, if not my zip code.
It is not what I think. It is posted on OTCM.
Held at DTC: 383,618,545 08/28/2024
OF:
Outstanding Shares: 7,102,092,625 08/28/2024
...18 percent of OS...Not so impressive, that. We want to see 100%.
NSAV's shares won't be at DTC until they are all registered. The dividend shares in 2017 were not registered.
Tilton has always had those shares. But he is not in power, and does not have sufficient shares to own the company. That changed years ago and he was fired as CEO and an interim CEO replaced him. Now, a new CEO has replaced the interim CEO. I have a suspicion that Silverbear figured out that Tilton had this baggage and 'bagged him' before he could bring harm to the company.
What is interesting about an MM selling shares? Oh that's right, they don't sell shares. They are not traders. They fulfill orders that are within their spread.
They HAVE to fulfill orders that are within their spread. By law!
The only time an MM can buy or sell shares without a buy/sell order is when a stock goes illiquid. Meaning it is not trading. That's when MM's (market makers, get it?) buy and sell among themselves to give the illusion that the stock is actually trading. It is literally WHY they are called market makers.
Can't imagine why people don't understand what MM's actually do. They are NOT traders, they are NOT in competition with US, they are in competition with EACH OTHER!
They were not NSAV shares, they were CHIF shares. Whether he got them or not, NSAV had nothing to do with it. But grover somehow thinks NSAV should be responsible. The whole issue was with CHIF and Baritz and not with NSAV. This is a pure bullshit money grab try. Tilton and NSAV had absolutely nothing to do with this.
The DTC holds companies' shares and changes the owners' names when bought or sold. That costs a fee annually, but it frees up brokerages that will only work with DTC eligible companies. It changes the transfer agent's job.
I still don't know how they are going to pull it off with all our dividend shares unregistered. I doubt it will be fully implemented until that little detail is fixed.
Because noteholders lend money. They are not traders. They are lenders. They get shares and dump them immediately. Almost all of the OTC operates that way.
Grover, if anything you say was actually true, it would show up in company filings and/or this very message board or the CHIF one. I have looked. There is nothing. You are making shit up and trying to steal from NSAV. You are talking about nearly a decade ago, and just flicking shit at the company. You will be sorry when the judge determines what your exact motive is.
Your dealings were with CHIF, not NSAV. CHIF has no record of anything except an intent to give you some CHIF shares. I know. I have looked. I've read all of your messages over the years, and not once did any of this come up. I've seen your record of screwing over shareholders with your reverse splits.
You are a liar and a coward!!
You have to remember that VG has no documentation of any type of employment by NSAV, either before or after JT took over in 2016. That means, he is lying about his employment, and everything else.
I've read NSAV's filings, CHIV's filings, and this board's record of messages in 2016 and even before. The only thing I ever found was that he got or was promised some CHIF shares, way back. Before JT's tenure. He is a pure liar and the judge should see that, and fine him for tortious filings.
No one understand, or knows, what the $11B in 'intangible assets' means. I think we all understand that it is fiction, but legally filed. Truth will out, eventually.
JT has nothing to do with NSAV any more, and has not had for over 2 years. So, figure out that JT is out of the leadership role he used to have, and tilt your shit at who is now in charge, if you must. But to keep bringing up JT simply shows your lack of understanding of what has happened at NSAV, so you get to be one more ignored idiot who obviously has no clue and hangs onto year-old ideas as if they were current. Buh-Bye...
I agree.
If you search for Grover in relation to NSAV in this message board (2015, 2016, 2017) you will find his name mentioned just once - with regard to CHIF. So, clearly, grover is unrelated to NSAV in the first place. It was the previous CEO OF CHIF. He happened to be CEO of NSAV also, but grover's business was with CHIF and Baritz.
If the judge figures this all out, she will wet her pants slapping Grover down, if not charging him with damaging NSAV and taking up her time with fake claims. As far as I know, making up false claims about companies, and then suing them for money is strictly illegal.
If there was ANY legal document, you could find it either in NSAV's filings or this message board or even CHIF's - crickets.
When did Vik Grover become part of NSAV? Well, he didn't. You can look at the filings, and you can read this board in 2016. Grover was never a part of NSAV, and JT was not CEO when the previous CEO gave Grover a lot of common shares, about 300M of CHIF if I recall. Not NSAV. So if he has an issue with the previous CEO, he should be directing his attention to Baritz.
Here is a link to the announcement of JT as the new CEO. To this point, Grover's name has not been in any filings.
Change of control of NSAV - 2016
So, not only was Grover never an employee of NSAV, he was not an employee of CHIF either. He's simply trying to steal from NSAV...
You could not be further from the truth. The bashers are not shareholders and don't care what the company share price does. They CARE about people responding to them. So, no they won't be crushed, they did not buy millions of shares or any shares at all. They are not traders. Their JOB is to bash a company to create doubt.
And, there are no 'shorts' in the sub penny stocks. If anyone knew anything about shorting, they would realize that the best they could do is to skim a few pennies IF and ONLY if the share price fell in the designated time. Meantime, they would have to 'pay' $2.50 per share margin JUST to short one stock. No one in their right mind would wager $2.50 on a bet that a sub-penny stock would drop 10%. So, if the share price is $.005 (half a penny) and it dropped 10% it would be .0045, with the significant profit of $.0005 PER SHARE. Shorting a thousand shares would require $2500 in margin, and would reap a nickle ONLY if the share price dropped to meet the bid.
Get it? NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is shorting sub penny stocks. Not to mention that your brokerage would not permit it in the first place, because it would be a total waste of time for them to do it.
And then, when you factor in the $5 fee for the trade, you can't short enough shares to get your $5 back!!!
So, now that I know that you know absolutely nothing about what you are saying, you are being added to my ignore list. I don't have time to listen to idiots blather about things they don't understand.
No, off topic messages should be on facebook, or some other gossip board.
We are here to talk about OUR stock, not other stocks, not vacations, not ex-wives, not politics or any other off-topic ideas. There is a PRIVATE REPLY if you want to jabber about other shit with other people. The rest of us simply don't want to see it, and will ignore people that can't stay on topic. That has worked for me for many years. I only DON'T ignore people that have the company's welfare in mind.
Only an idiot would talk about naked shorting in the OTC. Not even possible. Even pumpers can be ignored...
If NSAV ever intends to become DTC eligible, they will have to register and unrestrict our dividend shares. I have 500K myself and am patiently waiting for NSAV to try to 'fix' the share mess to become DTC eligible. They can't uplist without that, so they are mired in pink land until they fix it.
They aren't doubters. They are trying to MAKE doubters. The lies are intentional.
Actually, not. They filed for late filing already.
Actually, none of us know the details of any orders, property changes, etc. We don't know, because they are building a business, and how they go about it is not public information. They will tell us information when it is solid information.
In the meantime, all the speculation is totally meaningless. Unless you are inside the company, and know exactly what is happening, you are blue skying it. It is meaningless. In other words, if your lips are moving, you are guessing.
The intro can be made by anyone. That does not mean it is suitable for DD. Your DD should be done on the company's financial statements. That is the only place you will see what the company has actually done. It means nothing what they SAY they are going to do. Most of the time, those are never done.
The negative posts are a problem because those of us that don't want to read incessant bash posts resort to ignores to shut them up. Bashers are not trying to inform anyone, they are trying to illicit responses to their bashes. If everyone on a given message board ignored them, they would go away, period. They do it because it pays.
They are not losing any time. They have a job that pays. They don't buy or sell stock, they badmouth stocks. That's it.
That's not how they work. They are on multiple boards, posting fake stuff on all of them. Each response is worth money, as much as $5 per response. They are not shareholders, and have no wish to become shareholders. They have a JOB, and it pays more than NSAV stock does. At least for now.
Agree. Posting an image should be no more difficult than posting a link. As it is on all social media platforms.
Unread message count includes ignored members. It should not. It also repeats the same (so called unread) message over and over, even if I have read it, if no other posts are made. Meaning, I can click and see the same already read message over and over as long as no other post has been made. This is easy coding stuff, but is very annoying.
Speaking of ads, I am a paying customer and half of my screen is always ads, and sometimes I get full page ads. I never, ever, ever, ever, ever click on an ad. Except when I'm tricked into clicking one by screen placement. That is a dirty trick. That is actually a dishonest click that someone gets paid for.