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I'm going to laugh when this trade 12 million today....
I'll take the over what are the odds....
I think the want us to get impatient and sell out. I like it when noones selling just don't like it when no ones buying....
So are you watching TFVR for an entry point or just scanning the board? I would think that there is not enough volatility in this stock for you. I flipped said stock a few times and made a few hundred percent. But that last time took out all my gains when it fell to .04 I think I bought back at 13 or so. I ended up selling at 6. Thought it was never going to turn. Of course the next day it turned and ran back up for weeks. I just don't see any value in that company at all. I took that money and averaged down here from 5 cents to 1. At least here they are a company not just a shell. I think this could one day be worth dollars not cents. just want to get my initial investment off the table then I'll hold some Long term.
I'm not in a bad position setting at a .01 PPS average. I have no reason not to believe that this won't rise. I wish I would have waited longer to buy and taken more at the .06 mark but that's how it goes sometimes. This is not a level playing field by any means. All investors don't have the same skill sets ect. I agree with your assessment that it all a game and you have to know when to get on the bus and off the bus. For the most part News is noise but I believe in this case we need some noise to bring in volume from new investors. Like I said many times before the only way this thing is going to move is with new investors coming in so the MM's will stop manipulating the price or the MM's decide to let it rise. I have seen stocks soar 1000's of percent in one day on no news. Why because as it starts to climb the sheep jump on board by the thousands. They are the same people that would not touch the stock at .007 but now that it's 70 cents they have to have it. Crazy. There are many ways to make money on the market. Not that I have any skill at this though. This is not my primary income so it's more of a hobby. I'm self employed and have a lot of free time so I play around in the OTC land. I mostly just gamble. Everything I do know is self taught so I appreciate your input and help. I am always learning. Thanks....
I got my first sell order at 7 cents i'm done looking at this either I go broke or else. see you in a few months....
I'm hoping something positive is up why else the delay? last time they had a delay it took only a week to post. Hope its all positive news. We need something to bring in the buyers. Right now nobody knows of this except those that already own it. Its well below the radar. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. Hoping that it's a good thing and we are in at the start of something good. I got just about every thing invested here. lost a ton last year on a bad pick that turned out to be a scam job. hope to make it back in this one. looking to make at least 80k profit then I'll hold some back for the long haul. I'm pretty sure dilution is over. Nobody wants to sell and the only way to pick up shares right now is to nail the ask. That's a good sign even if the volume is down to nothing at this point. I believe if we still had the dilution machine working they would have sold some today. GLTY....
absolutely no volume today. hope those mm's need a bunch of shares and a short squeeze moves in....
What manipulation 450k sitting on the bid at .0071 and no sellers. it falls off and someone fills a 100k order at 7 really. yeah I don't want to sell for more I'll take less. lol what ever. the games these MM's play are so predictable it's sick. without volume we will see this for days.
LOL, I'm guessing nobody wants to sell at these levels even the MM's. That tells me most shares are sitting above this mark.
I think that was because of dilution but I see your point I will be careful.
I love that flag watch and learn folks....
That's shares they are using against us. this goes down in the am then back up sell and buy back
I see other are posting this is a buy on the lion board. Good start....
Nite is sitting on the bid. That's one MM I cant stand and probably the most shady of all of them. But if he's buying that's a good thing. as long as he's not bring the price down to buy up cheapies. that alone tells me this thing is going higher....
most here I believe are holding a million plus or more....
Hoping that's a load up by the big players. then they will push it up hard and fast. After a 200 percent gain the sheep will join in like mad. Always cracks me up when people wont get in on the ground floor but let a stock rise 1000 percent in a day and they move in like flies on crap. I seen one last week on my watch list that went from 2 bucks to 40 in a day. Its been going up and down hard since. The selloff begins everyone starts shorting it drops 15 bucks and they push it back up causing the shorts to cover. Crazy....rinse repeat....
that's why we cant get the volume we need to push it up fast and hard. very few know of this ticker and you cant even find it on the other boards. I found it from a board about another blockchain company and heard someone say that it was too hard to read because it didn't have enough history....
Looks over on level 2 but we should know with in a few days for sure. I'm in the short club once this hits around 10 cents I'll be 90 percent out I'll hold a few 100k for the long run just in case....
Might go over one cent today crazy stuff going on in level 2 land. bids and asks jumping all over the place. I guess the MM's don't want to play nice together today. Or we got someone trying to load for a pump and either the MM's or somebody does not want to coop....
lot of resistance around the eight range. until all those that bought in cheap get bought out or until volume picks up to 4 or 5 times these levels it will be slow moving up. At least it looks like dilution is over for now....
We are not friends just know each other on this board. Jas22 actually called this scam out long before the fall. If you go back over a year ago you can read the posts. We actually argued a lot about this being a scam. At first Richard was talking a lot to all of us. He then he went silent after we all started asking him tough questions. There is a lot of bagholders in this one though I don't know if anyone of the original holders still have shares. I sold the rest of mine when I saw he was filing BK. He's was running this out of a UPS store in NC. said he had offices in many states. we were suppose to have clients all over the country. Suppose to have a deal with the 2nd biggest drug testing company in the US. It was all lies. What made it look real was him and his cronies where holding large chunks of stock so they keep acting as if they where losing their shirt along with the shareholders. All the time dumping more shares and not updating the float. I have not checked in a while but I doubt he even owns a share now....
Jas I contacted a lawfirm that works on cases like this. we probably wont get much if we win but at least he will lose it....
8.00 a share lmao i'll sell all mine no for 5.00 and retire to an island in flordia....
he's sitting on 8.00 now hope he's gone but time will tell soon....
One more thing that 2 mill sitting on the bid is a buyer not an MM I believe....
I would say it would pop but the dilution is not over. MAXM only keeps letting it move a little up then he jumps back in with those fake 10k asks. If you slap them they never disappear. He's the dilution machine. I find it funny he stayed away yesterday after the PR came out. They wanted it to go up some. we got to be close to over but who knows???? I'm still good where I'm sitting. I pretty sure this will see 5 cents again.
He scammed a lot of us over the past few years. I finally got out and took a loss. most of us where in from the 26 cent range when he took over the company. He would come out with fake PR's that would never happen. I don't believe it was ever a real business to start with. He stole millions an it appears that he started another investment company with the money. But I have not been following it for some time now. I sold a lot of my shares when he pumped it up to 7 cents with some PR on a major drug testing company that was suppose to partner with ENCC. He kinda of hinted it was LabCorp and was suppose to be announced at the annual drug testing conference. That never happen either. It's been a complete scam from the get go. I agree with JAS he should be in prison. just doubt that will ever happen. Class action would be great. we would not get much the lawyers would but at least they might be able to take it from him....
Yep they where sitting around 3 cents all day yesterday. that tells me they where trying to get the price back up with the PR. It did not have the desired effect I guess. today they are back in play full force with them 10k asks that never end. if someone hits the ask with a higher number they will fill the whole order. until this stops we can never go up.... a little shady to me as they had to know before hand of the PR????
MAXM back in selling mode with the 10k trick. dilution continues:[.......
I don't know about you but I really don't want to wait 2 years to get a return on my investment. also they only have 500 million ath shares so I doubt we ever get that close to 450 before they do the reverse split. This need to move quickly or at least steady or I think we are all in trouble JMHO....
Because most of us are tapped out. Also the lower it stays the more dilution it brings. They are also expanding which will require more capital. That means more dilution. You don't think the CEO is not going to take his paycheck do you? Our only hope is for this thing to move up and fast before the bankroll runs out. If not this is going to be a 450 million share float and a RS will follow. Then we will all be bag holders with just a few thousand shares a piece while the company has a brand new stockpile of shares to dilute. I have seen it many times before. The dilution will kill us unless they can get better financing and that won't happen down here in sub penny land. Remember the toxic finance companies don't care about the shareholders. As soon as they get there greedy hands on them shares they will sell in to nothing. As long as they get there money they are fine with that. And seeing as we have a CEO with little or no skin in the game he will continue to draw a huge paycheck all the way down. It needs to move fast but for that to happen we need the dilution to be over and a whole lot more buyers here. The buyer will show up as this thing climbs. People are crazy like that. They would rather jump on board after a move of 100 to 200 percent then buy on the ground floor. You will know when it starts we will see volume of 20mil a day IMHO..........
People also trade idea's on the site. and it will even keep track of your trading skills and list the leaders on the boards. I do not know how accurate that is because people could easily lie about what they really bought or sold for. It's a fun tool but be careful people always have an agenda. I follow a few traders there for ideas from time to time. but I still do my own DD. there's a lot of pumpers there too.
I posted on the Pinks and BB forum. I was asking that a few weeks ago if anyone new how to add a ticker to that board. It should have all boards associated with TFVR linked to the main forum there. IE. yahoo, Stocktwits, twitter, and Ihub. aby where there's news or talk about TFVR that should pull up. But your right it says ticker does not exist. don't know why that is.
I posted on the lion board under pinks and bb....
I saw your post and it was not off topic it was your opinion about the company.... did you file a complaint with I hub. Its sad that that happens all the time on the boards here.
I just read an article that said the antminer s-9 could produce about .5 bitcoins a month and after you factor in costs your profit would only be about 330.00 a month per miner. with that being the case it would take a year to get our money back. that's along time in the coin world. that's with all things being constant and coin price don't take a dive.
I'm not trying to be negative here. I just lost all trust in this company. That PR should have moved this thing a lot more. It didn't because nobody even knows about this ticker. And the ones that do are already bagholders. The MM's are eating it alive and the few that bought in late are snatching profits on every move. Plus you have the dilution which I don't think is over yet. I believe this next expansion will probably dilute even more. We are paying him a huge salary and he shows no interest in the share price. He should be receiving a lot less money and more shares. That way he has skin in the game along side us. Right now he doesn't have to care about PPS because we are holding the bag. I almost believe that this PR is just a was to pipe out more dilution. You got to admit he's running out of buyers.
I was just saying why didn't he put that in the PR. Something like "we mined X coins since we started three weeks ago." Then we could further understand the Ramp up ect.
Well how much have they mined???? and where do you all think the expansion money is going to come from???? Mr Read could loan the company a few hundred k out of his pay. We can use restricted stock as the collateral. Lets say he can't sell it until it hit 50 cents a share. That would boast shareholder confidence. All that PR did was get us a few more holders. he needs to figure out away to get us noticed.... Still don't trust this play anymore.... but I have no choice but to ride the bus....