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Moving on good Volume up. Time to Jump on the train !
Its going up again
This Seems to be a good Buy. Its going to go up!
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up 15 percent in one single day:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/665341-ung-gains-15-in-a-single-day-watch-out-for-a-hangover-sell-off?source=yahoo
The NAV of GAZ is now only $1.99... due to cotango we can see it drop to just a few cents in a few years.
The best way to invest in nat gas and avoid the cotango is to buy a gas corporation. The cotango can create situations where nat gas rises and UNG/GAZ still lose.
GAZ Hers your answer.Look at the NAV.Stock is way over priced and will collapse.
http://etfs.morningstar.com/quote?t=GAZ
Wow! That's what I call a bold statement. Are you suggesting GAZ is actually a fraudulent scheme and not just a currently overbought ETF? What about the underlying assets of this ETF, and what would be the scenario under which it would go to zero? Your prediction seems even more extreme when one considers your post script, "not kidding". I think you actually are kidding around, but I would be very interested in any support you can provide for your prognostication.
Of course, I have never indicated whether I have or ever had a position, but your warnings were indeed timely. The Street.com came out with an article this morning basically supporting your concerns about the NAV issue, and it may have contributed to the steep decline today. On the other hand, maybe more people read this board than we know! In any case, thanks for the early warning.
hope you got out in time
http://www.ipathetn.com/product/GAZ/
look for "indicative value"
here is a better way
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EGAZ-IV&ql=1
Where do you get these numbers from?
Good information to know.
both GAZ and TVIX are being manipulated, if you look at the biggest holders there are many coincidences there even though they are very distinct vehicles.
when the manipulators decide to remove the plug (or iPath or the SEC does it for them) both can colapse 50% in minutes
You should consider a premium membership. I have found the extra features to be well worth the price.
I actually enjoyed our aggressive banter, but it makes the IH administrators nervous. Your points are well taken, and I certainly respect your factual warnings about this very important NAV issue with GAZ. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your perspective, highly speculative investments frequently follow an irrational path - up or down. I have little doubt you're sincere in presenting the facts about GAZ, but the NAV issue has been known for some time, and GAZ has still performed well over the last few months. Honestly, I'm as mystified as you, but the uptrend is a fact as much as any other, and while I acknowledge it may crash and burn at any moment, I can't help wondering why GAZ holds up in the face of such well known negative information. Perhaps it is nothing more than investor gullibility, but I'm not ready to accept that as a full and complete explanation at this point.
i dont think i can use the private response feature
I don't think it is appropriate or useful to discuss actual positions on a public message board, but I will consider sending you a private message.
if sometimes I am more agressive in my responses is only because I want people to notice they are doing some great mistake, maybe it does not look like it but my intention is only to help
are you long ?
I thought it would be good to note the GENERAL downturn in the markets today, just in case someone got the impression the decline was limited to GAZ. Nothing more; nothing less.
what do you mean with this ?
In fact I have been in contact with iPath and they told me they are looking into this problem.
It seemns hat maybe you do not understand my points, if that is the case please feel free to ask me questions.
Since you can believe everything you read on internet message boards and all poster's motives are exactly what they are purported to be, there is little doubt what the average investor should do with respect to GAZ. (LOL)
So whats the deal with this fund? I here nothing but bad press on every message board. However I can find no proof that this is a fraudulent operation or fund. Ipath is pretty reputable.
Fair and balanced response.
Stocks tumble on global growth worries
http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/20/markets/stocks/?source=cnn_bin
Knowing my investing expertise, I would probably buy it at $250, sell at $100, and try to make up the difference on volume.(LOL)
why would anyone buy GAZ for $6 when its underlying assets are worth $2.5 at current natural gas market prices ? you are better off buying UNG or the futures contracts directly.
if today you buy oil at $150 you are overpaying, no matter what the future of the price of oil will be
Flem, you just dont understand the meaning of NAV
Lets say you are bullish oil... you think its going
to $200 and its now trading at $100...
Would you buy it at $150 ? Or at $100 ?
Because that is that you are doing... you are buying Natural Gas above market price.
Thanks for your help. I always appreciate free advice and usually find it's well worth the price. (just kidding, I'm enjoying the debate, and I would never ignore any verifiable facts)
(1) "explain to us what is an NAV"
Answer: Definition of 'Net Asset Value - NAV'
A mutual fund's price per share or exchange-traded fund's (ETF) per-share value. In both cases, the per-share dollar amount of the fund is calculated by dividing the total value of all the securities in its portfolio, less any liabilities, by the number of fund shares outstanding.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nav.asp#axzz1pf1FpuCp
(2)"why should GAZ trade 150% above it"
Answer: Not sure, but possibly because of the following:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46403675
(3) "simple question"
Answer: No.
flem, if you are long GAZ just get out and take your profits
I am here to help people so they dont lose money
go to the yahoo group for SEC questions
Flem, please explain to us what is an NAV and why should GAZ trade 150% above it... simple question.
How competent was the SEC with respect to the Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme you previously referenced? Additionally, are they really investigating GAZ or is it a broad, and perhaps politically motivated, investigation of speculation in the natural gas industry? Maybe you could provide a link to the specifics for us less enlightened investors.
Everyone long GAZ will lose 60% of their capital
It is a mathematical impossibility for me not to be right.
This is a Ponzi.
be careful with flemsnopes
he is either a fool or a scammer
do your research
Yes, about this issue in particular I am right, 100% certain.
Is a mathematical impossible not to be right. When GAZ colapses everyone will see it.
GAZ has a mathematically certain and defined NAV.
Stock do not have that. Do you see the difference ?
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iPath DJ-UBS Natural Gas TR Sub-Idx ETNThe investment seeks results that correspond generally to the price and yield performance, before fees and expenses, of the Dow Jones-UBS Natural Gas Total Return Sub-Index. The note is designed to reflect the performance of natural gas. The index is composed of the Henry Hub Natural Gas futures contract traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
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