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MKN still has a VP running IR. When I saw MKN's settlement with the opioid victims to be almost complete I sent him a query to which he responded, somewhat confusingly, that MKN had fully impaired its Ocera Hepatic Encephalopathy development program, but that the CVRs were not impaired. He provided clarification as follows:
I can’t believe how far MNK has fallen. In hindsight it’s really bad luck that ocera was acquired by them vs a more profitable company. I’ve given up any hope we’ll see any money for our cvr’s.
thank-you longx for the great info and for continuing to share it here.
These CVR's are really horrible. I'll never opt for them again if given the choice. There is just too much uncertainty and risk associated with them IMO.
Hi All,
I found the following text in Mallinckrodt 2020 Q1 earning report transcript (a link to the full copy of the text can be found at the end of this post):
Thanks. Those are very logical and valid points. My frustration is making me skeptical and suspicious. Hopefully we see some progress this year.
Considering the long life of the CVRs (end date 12/2029), the relatively low cost of the first milestone ($10 million), and that there was no reason to buy OCRX other than to try bring the compound to market, I don't see MNK dragging their heels. The sooner they can get into a definitive trial the sooner they can get a positive return on their investment.
Now for the sales milestone, sure, if sales get close to to required half billion then MNK would likely factor that milestone payment into their sales efforts.
I'm sure the OCRX board would have preferred more money up front also, but after the troubles of the Phase 2 trial and all the uncertainty whether this product will ever be approved, it seems perfectly reasonable to have a CVR. Fortunately it just requires trial enrollments and not approval so faster to payments
Thanks. I wonder if there is any chance they are purposely going slow to avoid making the milestone payments? Looks like shareholders are getting screwed by this arrangement. Ocera should have insisted on a better deal with more money upfront and less on these stupid CVR’s.
The phase 2 trial for the oral formulation is now up and running but the Phase 3 for the IV formulation that would trigger the milestone payment is still listed as "Not yet recruiting". Not a single change since it first appeared at clinicaltrials.gov in October.
Meanwhile, Mallinckrodt continues to drop their estimated value of the CVRs that is required for accounting:
"The Company determined the fair value of the contingent consideration based on an option pricing model to be $16.6 million and $21.5 million as of September 27, 2019 and December 28, 2018, respectively."
That's about $0.5 per unit. At least it is still higher than the $0.00 figure based on "If it is unpriced it must be zero" model used by the guy on here trying to evade income taxes.
Anyone know if there has been any update on milestone 1? Is was targeted for completion by year-end but at this point it’s not looking likely.
Payments depend on milestones so if MNK files for Bankruptcy it’s unlikely we would see any payments.
Anyone know if MNK file bankruptcy we will still receive our money.
I looked back at previous posts to confirm the milestone payments. As you already stated milestone 1 is $0.34/share. The others are:
Milestone 1: $0.34 for the first patient enrolled in a Phase 3 IV trial
Milestone 2: $0.52 for the first patient enrolled in a Phase 3 oral trial
Milestone 3: $1.72 for cumulative sales exceeding $500M.
That’s great news. Thanks again for sharing it. Will be interesting to see how brokers treat the payments on tax statements. Income, dividend, capital gains?
That's 10K going to my Roth account. Appreciate the news.
According to today news release (see the link below)
The first milestone payment of $0.34/share will be by the end of this year: "...The company expects to begin recruiting by the end of 2019 for a Phase 3 clinical trial investigating MNK-6105 in patients being treated for acute HE in the hospital."
And once phase 2a of MNK-6106 to be completed by the end of Q1/2020, if the results is good, phase 3 should follow after that and we will receive the 2nd milestone payment in Q2/2020.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-patient-enrolled-mallinckrodts-phase-104500633.html
As described in the clinical website: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03712280
They're still in phase 2a for studying pharmacodynamics/safety/pharmacokinetics of oral administration MNK6106. If the clinical data comming out in the upcoming October is good, they're definitely going to start Phase 3 trial for oral MNK6106, and for this we'll receive $0.52/share as soon as the very first patient enrolled for the trial.
Below is the 3 milestone payments:
1). $0.52/share if the first patient is enrolled in a Phase 3 for oral trial MNK6106
2). $0.34/share if the first patient is enrolled in a Phase 3 for IV trial MNK6105.
3) $1.72/share if the combined sales of MNK6105 & MNK6106 worldwide exceed $500 million before 2029
BTW, below is the link to the previous Phase 2b clinical trial for Oral OCR-002 conducted by Ocera:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01966419
Thanks longx. Would this be the first milestone payment? I think it was around 90 cents per share?
Hi All,
Just to let you know that Mallinckrodt had updated MNK-6106 study record by delaying the clinical results by 3 months; the clinical trial completion date was originally scheduled on 7/30/2019 is now moved to 10/30/2019.
Detailed info can be found via the following link:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/history/NCT03712280?A=3&B=4&C=Side-by-Side#StudyPageTop
Just noticed there's a class action lawsuit claiming that the sale wasn't fair to OCRX shareholders, filed in April 2018.
http://securities.stanford.edu/filings-documents/1064/OTI00_06/2018426_r01c_17CV06687.pdf
The case was dismissed but I believe it is pending an appeal by plantiff
http://securities.stanford.edu/filings-documents/1064/OTI00_06/20181210_r01x_17CV06687.pdf
Meanwhile, we hear nothing about the milestone payments and the CVR's just sit there.
thanks stet. I will give that a try. This was my first experience with CVRs and thus far I am not a fan of them at all. They sit in the account with no status updates or info available. The acquiring company has no obligation to notify the holders of any progress towards achieving the milestones. We're all basically in the dark and I can't help but wonder if the acquiring company would let certain dates slip to avoid making some of the milestone payments.
Next time I will sell all shares and let someone else hold the CVRs.
King Oil, I did the conversion from my traditional IRA that I had set up for a previous conversion that was taxable and reported on a 1099 from Merrill Edge. When I did the subject transaction it was not reported on a 1099, and yes I did it because the rts. have no cash value and can not be traded.
Hi stet. If you don’t mind sharing the details did an accountant confirm that the conversion isn’t taxable? Do you know if the reason is because the cvr can’t be traded and has 0 value in a brokerage account? Thanks
thanks. In hindsight I'm not a fan of the CVR model. It seems strange for a company to have an incentive to delay achieving milestones. It may be that the reward of achieving a milestone far outweighs the cost of paying the CVR, but if the time difference comes down to a few days or weeks perhaps they're willing to wait and avoid the payment.
Thanks longx.I moved my 30k rts from traditional IRA to Roth IRA, so at least any payment will be tax free.
According to SEC filing, the new name for IV OCR-002 is "MNK-6105" and Oral OCR-002 is "MNK-6106"
I think milestone 1 should have been completed by now. I hope it's not a bad sign.
I kinda lost track. Thanks for the info.
For anyone still following the progress of ocr-002 it's been renamed to MNK-6105 and as far as I can tell still hasn't started phase 3 trials yet.
http://vtessepharma.com/research/technology/pipeline
Anybody have any new guesses on timing of the milestones?
There is nothing left to do with OCRX except wait to see if the milestones are hit. All OCRX shareholders have already received cash and CVRs for their shares. The rest is up to MNK to make progress. If the milestones are hit, cash payments will be made to holders of the CVRs. There's a good opinion on the probability of hitting the milestones here: https://alphavulture.com/tag/ocrx/
I’m in the same boat! I would love to know too!
What do I do with this??
I am new to investing and had 300 shares of this company. I couldn't quite follow along with everything that was going on with it so I am really lost. Could some kind person explain to me what has happened and if there is way to get my money back out of this? Thank you much!
I moved all my ocrx rts. from my traditioal IRA into a Roth IRA without triggering a taxable event. Could work out well if we receive a milestone payment.
anybody still following the progress? I guess we'll have to follow Mallinckrodt to figure out if any milestones have been reached.
Haha yes I hadn’t thought of that. I wonder if they’ll keep cvr holders updated on status of the milestones or if we’ll just see payments show up in our accounts.
Messy yes, but the confusion might work to one's advantage in that you definitely have an out should the IRS investigate and disagree with your interpretation of the code.
In any event, the sales proceeds from the OCRX merger (or tender) will reflect $1.52/share on your 2017 1099.
CVR tax treatment
Been reading up on how to treat payments tied to a CVR for tax purposes. It looks relatively messy vs. simple capital gains from selling the stock. Hopefully the payments are worth the extra paperwork.
that is great news then. Hopefully we get the first couple milestones in 2018 if Phase 3 can start.
thanks, received mine earlier today also. It will sure be nice if they hit one or more milestones.
"..there's no sign of the CVR's yet"
Mine arrived today.
The shares have been swapped out with cash at $1.52 per share in my brokerage account, however there's no sign of the CVR's yet.
According to 8-K form wiki page, the following should be described in the form:
- Results of operations and financial condition
- Creating certain financial obligations, such as incurrence of material debt
- Triggering events that accelerate material obligations (such as defaults on a loan)
- Costs associated with exit or disposal plans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_8-K
I guess it depends on whether no mention means there isn’t any shortfall vs they haven’t yet calculated and confirmed it.
According to the latest 8-K filing (dated 12/11/2017) on Edgar:
- The whole Ocera's management has been replaced with Mallinckrodt people.
- There wasn't any mention of the amount of cash shortfall (Ocera's existing cash minus all debts & transaction expenses) described in the 8-K filing. So I guess the deduction of 4cents for every $1M cash-shortfall won't occur and shareholders will receive the full amount $.34/share in the first milestone payment (?)
The tender offer by a subsidiary of Mallinckrodt plc for all of the outstanding shares of Ocera common stock expired as scheduled at 12:00 midnight (Eastern) on December 8, 2017. Excluding Ocera shares tendered by notice of guaranteed delivery, more than 50% of Ocera shares were validly tendered into and not validly withdrawn from the tender offer pursuant to Section 251(h) of the Delaware General Corporation law, according to the depositary for the tender offer. As a result, Mallinckrodt and its subsidiary have accepted for payment and will promptly pay for all shares that were validly tendered and not validly withdrawn.
Following its acceptance of the shares tendered in the tender offer, pursuant to Section 251(h) of the Delaware General Corporation Law, Mallinckrodt merged its subsidiary with and into Ocera without a vote of Ocera's other stockholders. As a result of the completed merger, Ocera became an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Mallinckrodt. In connection with the merger, all Ocera shares not validly tendered into the tender offer have been cancelled and converted into the right to receive $1.52 per share, plus one Contingent Value Right to receive one or more payments in cash of up to $2.58 per share, which is the same price per share offered in the tender offer. As a result of the acquisition, Ocera shares will cease to be traded on NASDAQ.
Thanks for sharing, those estimates look reasonable. It's too bad the CVRs can't be traded. Now we just wait and see.
Handicapping OCRX’s CVR milestones: #msg-136845360.
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Does indeed look like somebody wanted in and didn't want to space out the buying over the last few hours to try get a better average price. Must be a strong believer that both the IV and oral milestones will be hit.
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