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HAHAWKIEZ.. GREAT VOLUME...EVERYBODY IS SELLING BUT YOU MY FRIEND, DONT USE YOUR EMOTIONS USE YOUR REASONING.. GET OUT NOW..JUST WANT TO EDUCATE YOU..
bot TDSM at .55Posted by: SSP
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Date:3/23/2007 3:00:15 PM
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TDSM buying .45 shares on reverse merger, only 1 million sOut right now.
Great call, before most recent runup when the stock was .16
Is there anybody left on this board? Let's hear it.
Thanks for the explanation Macho. It makes sense to me and doesn't sound negative at all. I'm still holding even though others seem to think we are washed up.
GLTY,
Jus
Jusaplayin - VHGI, formerly ETCR, acquired VPSH and Envoii for the 34,000,000 post split shares of VHGI per the SEC filings.
Previously, VPSH would receive 25% of the revenue from the use of VeriScrip and Envoii would receive 75% of the revenue for doing all the work from States or other sources first contacted by ETCR. Revenue from Envoii's efforts would be split 5% ETCR and 95% going to Envoii. All of this is a matter of history.
Now VHGI owns both VPSH and Envoii, VHGI will receive 100% of the revenues derived from VeriScrip.
NMKT will own some shares of VHGI as a result of VHGI acquiring the remaining 51% ownership of MSO.
Macho
Jusaplaying, let me help you out.
Most ETCR longs dont understand whats going on,
thats how they put their pennies in ETCR in the first place.
Scott Haire, our new CEO, bought all of ETCR for less money then our friend Macho lent to them and he got full control. Scott decided that a 1:100 reverse split would be good for him and the stockholders.
Shortly thereafter, he decided that he needed to buy MOS from
NMKT in exchange for stock and debt.
It gets confusing here. VHGI has no floating stock, but plenty of debt inherited from ETCR.
What % does NMKT own in VHGI now ?
Forget ETCR. We no longer exist. We might as well close this Board down, as well as RB.
Now does VHGI own NMKT or vice versa? Will this benefit us as old ETCR (VHGI) share holders or will NMKT just steal away VPS? Thanks,
Jus
IMO this is key to our new connection.....
NewMarket offers healthcare industry specific emerging technologies and systems integration services with delivery capacity across North America as well as in China and Latin America. NewMarket also has additional healthcare technologies that may support future VirtualHealth service expansions. "I look forward to continuing to explore other synergies between our companies in the healthcare marketplace," said Philip Verges, CEO of NewMarket Technology, Inc.
NMKT offers big name software solutions, Veriscrip will be included in that mix now. We will now have a doorway into the global marketplace as well as a workforce to provide service.
IMHO.
E
I'm thinking that the acquisition of NewMarkets might give us a leg up in Florida. Maybe, just maybe, Scott Haire is here for the long haul. Dick L.
is there a new place for info on our company or is this board just dead?
OT: Al Tillis: Page 49 of the September 18th New Yorker has a cartoon you might enjoy. Dick L.
Why dont we have a contract yet ?
We had such a great trial in 2 small Counties in
2 Hospitals, with 2 Doctors and 2 Pharmacies,
according to my friend Jamie Millard. His mugshot
was even all over the rural Newspaper !
Why doesn't anyone like us ??
Dont they know we can save the World ?
(Down to $ 0.25 today) Great. I'm really optimistic now.
jusaplayin, no you would not;
Which means all of ETCR was worth $15,000 (negative value according to the SEC filings).
Find the initial agreement with Scott Haire yet?
BTW- 21,363 @ .10 Bid = $2,136.30.
Good luck.
Would you sell your $300,000.00 Ferari for $15.00 without good reason?
Jus
Well Euronator - 21,363 @ $1.75 = $37,385.25. That's a lot more than $20,000.00. I think that was a good investment!!!
I'm up and you think I'm down. You sure have a way of turning things around to appear negative.
The Stock Certificate was in the mailbox yesterday. The equity for debt swap was announed in the SEC Filings long ago. Thanks for your concerns.
Macho
Well LeeTillman, didn't you say
that you just found that Certificate in
your mailbox a few days ago ?
That would explain why I didn't know,
dont you think ?
Good luck with your 21,363 shares.
After the 30% drop last Friday its
like having only 14,251 shares for
your $ 20,000 investment.
I wouldn't be so excited about that.
macho Lee Tillman, you did get paid by ETCR!;
-If they obtain OTCBB status; file your Form 3,4, or 5 with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
-Immediately stop posting on these boards under any alias in either case.
Hope those shares are worth what you paid for them a year from now when you can file a Form 144 to sell them.
Good luck.
jusaplaying, read the SEC filings again to see how much Millard and ETCR owed Scott Haire and reconsider your "peein in the wind" response to the facts that ETCR/ VHGI shareholders continue to ignore.
I'll let you find the deal and post it. Then again, I think most ETCR Longs ignore those SEC filings that hold the truth because the story that was created and sold to them years ago sounds so much better.
Good luck.
Euro, I just can't help but to congratulate you on a magnificant imagination! This theory of trying to manipulate the pps of ETCR/VHGI is beyond belief!!!
I just returned from a trip abroad and found your postings on this board and ETCR. I also found a stock certificate from VertualHealth Technologies, Inc. in the amount of 21,363 shares of post split shares in my mailbox! This is full payment plus interest for the $20,000.00 I loaned ETCR!!
As per the filings to the SEC as to the equity for debt swap, all debtors have been paid per that filing. ETCR/VHGI now owes me nothing! The debt has been paid in full.
I find that your postings/speculations to be totally wrong and without due diligence. I am amazed that Al Tillis lets your wild and erroneous speculations remain posted on this board. There is NO need for any debtor to try and manipulate this stock.
As usual, your wild imagination and fabrication of FACTS have proved that you can not be trusted to post credible information.
Thanks for making my day.
I don't think Millard would have been that stupid to hand over the company for $15 grand just to have the new owner turn a quick 30 million dollar profit. Don't you think he would have done that himself? I think your peein in the wind there a little bit.
Jus
Did you buy you're ten shares yet euro
All week this stock was $ 2.50
Then, today, somebody sold 100 shares for $ 1.75.
Who would sell at a 30% loss ?
Who would even sell batches of 1000 shares for $ 0.10 ?
Guess whats going on.
My thinking, (I could be wrong of course), "a certain noteholder" is due to get paid in shares this month.
The lower the PPS, the more shares he gets for his $ 10,000.
Monday, "somebody" might sell another 100 for $ 1.00
On Tuesday 100 for $ 0.50
After Hlee gets reimbursed with an inflated number of
shares, he could put in a buy order for $ 2.50, everything is back to normal, Hlee gets 5 X the number of shares then when
the PPS was $ 2.50
We'll see what steps Haire is going to take, if he is aware
of this scam.
There is much to be gained for certain people if they bring
the PPS down if their cash loan gets reimbursed with shares.
Dont put this scenario past certain people here.
Unless Scott Haire or us step in, this stock will still be a
trailer trash pinkey, manipulated by trailer trash jojo's.
Buy 10 shares at $ 2.50. Stop the scam. It stinks.
Down 30% just 2 days after a Company PR
doesn't look very promising.
Maybe a few people could buy 10 shares for $ 5.00 ?
Personally i can call Scott Haire a smart business man
He made a profit, a rather large one at that. Next if you wait till we see whats going on with the new plan of attack, then make you're smart azz comments it would be appreciated by many.
I don't care for you're oppinion at this time until the new facts are in.
You may or may not be correct in you're judgement. An intelligent comment after doing some DD on the new business plan would be a smart move on you're part unless you just plan on being a MORON and speak without knowledge.
You my friend are beating a dead horse. That is you're style and its getting old. Wake up and do some DD then speak of the NEW BUSINESS PLAN.
Maybe then someone, anyone will care enough to read you're blabber.
As of now that is all you can spew and it's making you sound like a MORON. As far as watching myself ( was that a threat MORON )??????
Florida flyer fan explains some of you're rationalanity!
Ever hear about LTS? <L> Listen to whats going on <T> Think about what you're going to say <S> Speak with intelligence.
: flaflyersfan
Do you own stock in this company or are you here just to pizzzz people off? I own 3K, just hanging around to see what develops.
Silver
boopsboss, watch yourself;
I'm classified as a moron for posting facts?
-Are they still "developing" VPS?
-If VPS ever worked; what would keep someone from copying it?
-Do they have more than $106 in cash in the bank?
-Do they owe Lee Tillman $11,000 or the equivalent of that in stock this month?
I would think that someone being led along for 1-3 years by believing website updates about a revolutionary product and disregarding actual facts contained in ETCR/ VHGI's SEC filing would be better classified as a MORON.
He bought the whole enchilada for $15,000 and got $30 million in stock in return. How much do you think he really cares about VPS? All he has to do is keep you caring about it.
Good luck.
Virtual Payment Solutions, LLC. new subsidy to be acquired by SFNL...You can cross reference search with Scott Haire or HEB,LLC..
Ditto... I'm blessed.
P.S. Hit, a huge trophy to
your wife. Great woman.
Sorry Hit. Sigh, what can you say.
You had fun, things went terribly wrong,
Kindda like Steve Irvin, but you're alive
and enjoy your wife and kids.
At the University where I work, I see a lot of young
students in a wheelchair, maybe because of accidents,
maybe by birth. They dont advertise it.
(Sometimes I wish they had a bumper sticker).
We smoke together, sometimes I have to light the
sigarette for them, and we talk about classes.
I'm always afraid to offend them if I ask what happened to them.
Thanks for your answer.
Reading the last parapraph again...
it also says this,
the Company is either engaged in business with or negotiating, healthcare industry trends and management's ability to successfully finance, develop, market, sell and implement its e-commerce and internet solutions, clinical and financial e-transaction services and software applications to physicians, pharmacies, governmental agencies, laboratories, insurance companies, HMOs, and payers.
Sounds like THREE or FOUR possible products with distinct differences.
SEVEN different target groups to use these products.
This is in the last paragraph!
Blessings,
Exciter
Hit do you have photo's on yahoo
i'd like to see them.
By the way, don't let fff bother you.
He's a certified moron anyway. I'm a doctor on moronism and classified him and a few other's years ago as CERTIFIED MORON'S
I was 22 back in 85'. Big into sports. I was on a 5 day Vermont ski trip. Had a great day skiing. We came back to the shaleigh and I was getting friendly with a girl, a new face on the trip. I knew someone spiked the punch with 100% grain alchohol so I stayed away. We went down to the club had a few beers and got a little buzzed. We went back to the shaleigh and my judgement was impaired enough to dink the punch. Blood alchohol level was off the charts/. I jumped off a couch and was aiming for my friends back but he bent forward. I went over, airborn and landed on my head. Cracked the old neck. C-5 c-6... But G-d has been very good to me. I have a wonderful wife and you gotta see these twin boys. Gorgeous...
RB is down. They must be overloaded with TOSses.
What happened to you Hit ?
Care to talk about it ?
My sons are dare-devil dirtbikers. My
grandsons are getting into it too. My oldest son spent
2 months in the Hospital, 3 weeks in I.C. as a teenager.
It scares the heck out of me what some kids do nowadays
with double backflips.
I ride dirtbikes too, but not like they do.
Meanwhile, I'm happy for you. Great attitude.
Hope you and your family are doing well.
You must have been thru tough times.
Very funny. Some people are just miserable people. Can't look on the bright side. Maybe there is something here, who knows. Buddy, I'm a quadraplegic for 21 years. Never frowned or got depressed. Kept a smile on my face. G-d blessed me 4 years ago with a great wife. 2 years ago we had twin boys!! So miracles happen. Look at the positive...
Hitbodedut, That last paragraph does sum it all up;
This press release contains forward-looking statements that reflect the Company's current expectations regarding future events. While these statements reflect the Company's best current judgment, they are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ significantly from projected results due to a number of factors, including, but not limited to, assumptions, beliefs and opinions relating to the business and growth strategy of VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc. and it's wholly owned subsidiaries Verified Prescription Safeguards, Inc., VPS Holding, LLC, Envoii Healthcare, LLC and implementation thereof, based upon the Company's interpretation and analysis of financial and market conditions, the decisions of businesses with whom the Company is either engaged in business with or negotiating, healthcare industry trends and management's ability to successfully finance, develop, market, sell and implement its e-commerce and internet solutions, clinical and financial e-transaction services and software applications to physicians, pharmacies, governmental agencies, laboratories, insurance companies, HMOs, and payers. These factors and other risk factors are more fully discussed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
Different name; same non-working uncopyrighted product and no cash to do anything. They will need better PRs than that to get NEW people who don't know anything about ETCR to buy into VHGI.
I wonder what day this month the company is paying leetillman. You out there lee?
Good luck.
Seems that many longs are in silent mode. If anythig atleast they have the right person for the job and hopefully we will see real news.
VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc., Announces Restructuring of Company, New Board Members
2:19 PM EDT September 6, 2006
VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc. (Pink Sheets: VHGI) (f/k/a Equity Technologies & Resources, Inc.), Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Scott A. Haire announced today that the Stock Exchange Agreement entered into July 20, 2006 between Equity Technologies and HEB, LLC and its subsidiary MB Holding Corporation (owner of VPS Holding, LLC and Envoii Healthcare, LLC), was consummated August 25, 2006. Several actions have been implemented, including:
- Changing the company name to VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc. and a new trading symbol - VHGI - Implementing a 1 for 100 Reverse Stock Split - The resignation of the former Directors and Officers - The election of a new Board of Directors and Officer, Scott A. Haire, elected Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Deborah Jenkins elected to the Board. (brief bios furnished below)
Mr. Haire explained that "the new name more appropriately reflects our business model - concentrating in the healthcare industry utilizing the internet with emphasis on our Envoii Healthcare security system within the virtual world."
Mr. Haire, in discussing the resignation of the former Chairman of the Board, James Arch, and the former President and CEO, James K. Millard, stated, "In accepting their resignations, I thanked Mr. Arch for all of his years associated with the company and for his persistence to see that the company developed a model for success." Mr. Haire continued, "Both Ms. Jenkins and I thanked Mr. Millard for his diligent efforts to see that the company's involvement with the Pilot project for Kentucky's prescription drug monitoring program was successful and for his enthusiasm to assist with the overall development of Veriscrip while carrying out the plans for the ongoing business of VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc." Mr. Haire further stated, "Both Mr. Arch and Mr. Millard should be recognized for their loyalty to this company and its shareholders."
Scott A. Haire is also Chairman of the Board, President & CEO of MB Software Corporation, a company focused on developing and marketing products for the advanced wound care market. MB Software shares are traded on the OTC. Previously, Mr. Haire was president of Preferred Payment Systems, a company specializing in electronic claims and insurance system related projects. Mr. Haire earned a BS in Accounting from the University of Kentucky in 1987, where he was recognized as Academic All-Southeastern Conference for Football.
Deborah Jenkins, Director, is Managing Member and Principal Consultant of Cognitive Communications, LLC, a Business Consulting company. Ms Jenkins was the lead consultant for VPS Holding, LLC in developing the consortium that led to the success of the Kentucky Pilot Project; she is President and a Founding Member of RetroMedx, LLC a skin care and personal care products company. She has served as Special Consultant to Health Office India for strategy, development and operations assistance for work with US clients in medical transcription and coding services. Prior to serving in these capacities, she was President of pH Solutions, Ltd, the patent licensee of "safe acids" used in cosmetics, water purification, agriculture, pharmaceutical and many other industries. Prior to that she served in an executive management capacity primarily in technology and healthcare technology companies. She has served on many national and international trade association's boards including the Intel Internet Health Board of Advisors, the American National Standards Institute Health Informatics Standards Board (ANSI HISB) - representing the Health Industry Business Communications Council (HIBCC), and the American Society for Automation in Pharmacy (ASAP) where she also served as President and Secretary of the Board. Ms. Jenkins earned a BA degree in English from Texas Christian University in 1980.
Ms. Jenkins noted, "With VirtualHealth now owning both VPS and Envoii Healthcare, the entities that helped make the Kentucky pilot project system happen, great things are on the horizon for this company." She added, "Remember, Veriscrip was the first, and to our knowledge, the only prescription drug monitoring project in real-time in the United States".
This press release contains forward-looking statements that reflect the Company's current expectations regarding future events. While these statements reflect the Company's best current judgment, they are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ significantly from projected results due to a number of factors, including, but not limited to, assumptions, beliefs and opinions relating to the business and growth strategy of VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc. and it's wholly owned subsidiaries Verified Prescription Safeguards, Inc., VPS Holding, LLC, Envoii Healthcare, LLC and implementation thereof, based upon the Company's interpretation and analysis of financial and market conditions, the decisions of businesses with whom the Company is either engaged in business with or negotiating, healthcare industry trends and management's ability to successfully finance, develop, market, sell and implement its e-commerce and internet solutions, clinical and financial e-transaction services and software applications to physicians, pharmacies, governmental agencies, laboratories, insurance companies, HMOs, and payers. These factors and other risk factors are more fully discussed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
SOURCE VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc.
Shareholder Relations, +1-859-455-9255, or Shareholder.Relations@virtualhealthtechnologies.com
http://www.prnewswire.com
Symbol was disseminated at 2:20 PM today
and it is...............envelope please...................drum roll..........................
VHGI
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=08/30/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB
TT
Silver fox
Dont the symbol until tomorrow
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/830741/000116415006000215/vhti-8k_08302006.txt
ITEM 5.01 CHANGES IN CONTROL OF THE REGISTRANT
As a result of the consummation of the transactions under the Stock
Exchange Agreement, HEB has obtained control of a majority of the Company's
outstanding voting securities. Please see Item 1.01 for a description of the
Stock Exchange Agreement and related transactions.
ITEM 5.02 DEPARTURE OF DIRECTORS OR PRINCIPAL OFFICERS; ELECTION OF DIRECTORS;
APPOINTMENT OF PRINCIPAL OFFICERS
In connection with the consummation of the transactions under Stock
Exchange Agreement, Mr. Scott A. Haire and Ms. Deborah Jenkins were appointed to
the Company's Board of Directors and Messrs James Arch and James Millard, the
current members of the Company's Board of Directors, resigned. Mr. Haire was
also appointed Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer by the new
members of the Company's Board of Directors.
Scott A. Haire is Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and
President of MB Software Corporation, a company focused on developing and
marketing products for the advanced wound care market. MB Software shares are
traded on the OTC. Previously, Mr. Haire was president of Preferred Payment
Systems, a company specializing in electronic claims and insurance system
related projects. Mr. Haire earned a BS in Accounting from the University of
Kentucky in 1987, where he was recognized as Academic All-Southeastern
Conference for Football.
Deborah Jenkins, Board of Directors: Is Managing Member of Cognitive
Communications, LLC, a Business Consulting company; is President and Founding
Member of RetroMedx, LLC a skin care and personal care products company. She has
served as Special Consultant to Health Office India for strategy, development
and operations assistance for work with US clients in medical transcription and
coding services. Prior to serving in these capacities, she was President of pH
Solutions, Ltd, the patent licensee of "safe acids" used in cosmetics, water
purification, agriculture, pharmaceutical and many other industries. She has
served on many national and international trade association's boards including
the Intel Internet Health Board of Advisors, the American National Standards
3
Institute Health Informatics Standards Board - representing HIBCC (ANSI HISB and
the American Society for Automation in Pharmacy (ASAP) where she also served as
President and Secretary of the Board. Ms. Jenkins earned a BA degree in
English-Minor Journalism from Texas Christian University in 1980.
ITEM 8.01 OTHER EVENTS
The Company's name change to VirtualHealth Technologies, Inc., became
effective on August 24, 2006 with the filing of an Amended and Restated
Certificate of Incorporation with the Delaware Secretary of State. The Company's
previously announced 1-for-100 stock split will become effective on August 31,
2006.
ITEM 9.01 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS.
(a) Financial Statements of Businesses Acquired.
No financial statements are filed herewith. The Company will file financial
statements by amendment hereto not later than 71 days after the date that this
Current Report on Form 8-K must be filed.
(b) Pro forma financial information.
No pro forma financial statements are filed herewith. The Company will file
pro forma financial statements by amendment hereto not later than 60 days after
the date that this Current Report on Form 8-K must be filed.
(d) Exhibits.
Exhibit
No. Description
------- --------------------------------
10.20 Stock Exchange Agreement dated July 20, 2006 between Equity
Technologies & Resources, Inc., MB Holding Corporation, and H.E.B.,
LLC. (Incorporated by reference to Exhibit 10.20 to the Company's
Current Report on Form 8-K file with the Commission on July 25, 2006).
10.21 This Stock Cancellation Agreement (Class B Common Stock) dated July
20, 2006 between Equity Technologies & Resources, Inc., and MLH
INVESTMENTS, LLC (Incorporated by reference to Exhibit 10.21 to the
Company's Current Report on Form 8-K file with the Commission on July
25, 2006)
10.22 Form of Debt Exchange Agreement between Equity Technologies &
Resources, Inc., and Holder. (Incorporated by reference to Exhibit
10.22 to the Company's Current Report on Form 8-K file with the
Commission on July 25, 2006)
SIGNATURES
PURSUANT to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act, the registrant has
dully caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto
duly authorized.
VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
DATE: August 30, 2006 /s/ Scott A. Haire
------------------------------------
Scott A. Haire,
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Anyone know the new company name and the stock symbol?
Thanks in advance
Silver
Perhaps a "Rock Star" might be on this page.
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/page.cms?pageId=1141&potId=top25w
Blessings,
Exciter
Thanks Exciter. Jamie often wonders why more people don't call him for information.
My suspicion is there are folks here that think they'll be able to pick up some shares after a split pull-back. If some of us can't get any with 300 million shares out there, I doubt people will be too successful afterward. We'll see.
I phoned Jamie yesterday...
He said letters were to be sent out yesterday to investors on what to do with stock certificates. He recommended I call my brokerage company if I don't here from them in a couple days.
I garnered that his expectations of what was happening behind the scenes was better that we last spoke, a month ago, the company may release news before the market change, there may be news of a contract(not his words) forthcoming, he is aware of microsoft product but is not concerned as their past track record would support.
I expect a huge surge upward as news is released. Jamie did mention the word "timing" as being critical in the forthcoming news release.
I am looking for the market change to manifest by the end of next week.
Blessings,
Exciter
ETCR 10QSB filed;
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/830741/000116415006000186/etcr_10qsb-06302006.txt
CURRENT ASSETS:
Cash $ 698
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Total current assets 698
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TOTAL ASSETS $ 698
=======================
LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' DEFICIENCY
CURRENT LIABILITIES:
Accounts payable $ 190,056
Accounts payable - related parties 410,754
Dividends payable 33,750
Accrued salaries 401,200
Accrued expenses 254,736
Accrued interest 344,827
Notes payable 38,400
Notes payable, current portion - related parties 1,002,454
-----------------------
Total current liabilities 2,676,177
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Total liabilities 2,676,177
Financial Position
The Company had $698 in cash as of June 30, 2006 and no other assets. The
Company's liabilities were $2,676,177 and it had a working capital deficit of
($2,675,479). During the three months ended June 30, 2006 the Company had no
revenues and it had no revenues for the comparable period from the prior year.
During the six months ended June 30, 2006, the Company had general and
administrative expenses of $97,038 and interest expenses of $50,487, and net
losses of $147,525, compared to general and administrative expenses of $72,682
and interest expenses of $42,472, and net losses of $98,487, for the comparable
period from the prior year.
The Company does not have sufficient funds to execute its business plan or
pay its current liabilities. There is no assurance that the Company will be
successful in developing its electronic system to provide solutions for the
prescription drug and healthcare industry or the Veriscrip(TM) System.
$698 in cash left after various "donations" by parties, an undeveloped/ non patented/ product that doesn't belong to them anymore, and $millions in liabilities and stock owed with no way to repay it.
Said all that 3 years ago.
Good luck.
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