Excuse me, the issue is you had proof that FF sold all of the shares that they converted, still waiting for that link. Their bottom line is 0016 on all conversions or they lose money. Do you actually know the formula?? It is not not that complicated, they sell stock less than 0016-17 they lose money. Again, show me the formula if you are that sharp!!!!!! Not the language, show me the formula!!!!!! Let's see how sharp you are with the PVSP filings. I'll share it with you if you can't give me the actual mathematical formula. Come on mr Apples, give it in a formula, if you can't do it; then Riss is way smarter than you.