no paule - haven't seen the swm round who is it put out by - do you know the stats?? - as you know i use the black talon now (until i run out) then i plan to use the 180 gr reload from idaho - sure works good in my sako BTW i have shot the 18" marlin 45/70 - a FINE short range carbine - its bullet says "to whom it may concern" on it - it will blow over a wild boar at up to 100 yds, no problem